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The original idea behind the "Hyperloop" was NOT SpaceX and Tesla founder Elon Musk...


From: "DAVID FARBER" <dfarber () me com>
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 19:22:45 -0400




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From: the keyboard of geoff goodfellow <geoff () iconia com>
Date: August 17, 2017 at 7:01:14 PM EDT
To: E-mail Pamphleteer Dave Farber's Interesting People list <ip () listbox com>
Cc: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>, Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com>
Subject: The original idea behind the "Hyperloop" was NOT SpaceX and Tesla founder Elon Musk...

Dave & Dewayne -- for your respective lists -- hopefully/please -- to shine the light on and give credit where credit 
is due: vis-a-vis just who essentially laid out The Original Idea behind -- what today being called "The Hyperloop"-- 
 that SpaceX and Tesla founder Elon Musk laid out in a 2013 posting" according to a article out this day:

These college students are vying to build Elon Musk's hyperloop
by Rob Pegoraro
Contributing Editor
Yahoo Finance
<https://finance.yahoo.com/news/college-students-vying-build-elon-musks-hyperloop-200724101.html>

​​It really should be really titled 

These college students are vying to build Robert M. Salter's​ Planetran​

as laid out in ​these ​two ​seminal ​​​RAND reports ​from​ 1972 & 1978, respect​fully​, viz.:

The Very High Speed Transit System
by Robert M. Salter
Year: 1972

Description of a very high speed transit (VHST) system operating in its own rarefied atmosphere in evacuated tubes in 
underground tunnels. Most cases considered took less time to go coast-to-coast (e.g., 21 min) than it takes an 
aircraft to climb to an efficient operating altitude. VHST's tubecraft ride on, and are driven by, electromagnetic 
(EM) waves. In accelerating, it employs the energy of the surrounding EM field; in decelerating, it returns most of 
this energy to the system. Tunnel systems would be shared by oil, water, and gas pipelines; channels for laser and 
microwave waveguides; electric power lines including superconducting ones; and freight systems. Environmental and 
economic benefits are substantial, and the technology for building and operating the system exists.

https://www.rand.org/pubs/papers/P4874.html
http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/papers/2008/P4874.pdf

Trans-Planetary Subway Systems
A Burgeoning Capability
by Robert M. Salter
Year: 1978

Describes a subway concept called "Planetran" comprising electromagnetically supported and propelled cars traveling 
in underground evacuated tubes, able to cross the United States in one hour. It is designed to interface with local 
transit systems, and the tunnel complex also contains utility transmission and auxiliary freight-carrying systems. 
Tunnels represent a major problem area and most of the cost. They will be placed several hundred feet underground in 
solid rock formations. It will require advanced tunnel-boring machines, such as hypersonic projectile spallation, 
laser beam devices, and the "Subterrene" heated tungsten probe that melts through igneous rocks. Planetran is rated 
as a system high in conservation of energy. For every car being accelerated, there is one decelerating in an 
adjoining tube. The decelerating cars return energy to the system. The tubes have a reduced atmosphere, making drag 
losses much smaller than for aircraft. Coast-to-coast energy costs are expected to be less than $1.00 per passenger.

https://www.rand.org/pubs/papers/P6092.html
http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/papers/2009/P6092.pdf

-- 
Geoff.Goodfellow () iconia com
living as The Truth is True
http://geoff.livejournal.com  


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