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Re Google Engineer Fired or Sexist Memo Isn't a Hero


From: "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 08:07:11 -0400




Begin forwarded message:

From: "RJR.C" <rjr () rjriley com>
Date: August 15, 2017 at 11:54:08 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] Re Google Engineer Fired or Sexist Memo Isn't a Hero

What bothers me about this and a bunch of other case over the past five years is the mob mentality where they do 
their best to destroy someones life.  Not only is the person targets to lose their job, but there are often threats 
of bodily harm.  On top of that, campaigns frequently target family, relatives and friends.  They frequently rise to 
the level of violating people's civil rights.

This is way out of hand.; I suspect that it will get much worse as people start retaliating.  

I believe that people need to tone the rhetoric way down.  People can agree to disagree, and still respect those they 
may disagree on one issue, or even many issues, but still respect them for other traits which may be admiral.

Isn't part of growing up discovering that we must pick what we believe to be the best choice while none of the 
choices are what we would like?

One thing is certain, discussing differences of opinion is no longer possible once someone declares war.  It is 
better to start off being nice, once you are not there is no going back.

Ronald J Riley





On 8/15/2017 9:52 PM, Dave Farber wrote:



Begin forwarded message:

From: Dave Crocker <dcrocker () gmail com>
Date: August 15, 2017 at 8:10:43 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net, ip <ip () listbox com>
Cc: hasan.diwan () gmail com
Subject: Re: [IP] Re Google Engineer Fired or Sexist Memo Isn't a Hero

On 8/15/2017 4:11 PM, Dave Farber wrote:
*From:* Hasan Diwan <hasan.diwan () gmail com <mailto:hasan.diwan () gmail com>>
The action Damore was calling for in public is what got him fired,
not the views he held.

Exactly, and what I just found out is that he apparently has a pattern of crossing that line:

  James Damore Offended Fellow Students in Harvard Grad School Skit
  https://www.wired.com/story/james-damore-google-memo-harvard/

  "James Damore, the former Google engineer who was fired Monday after posting a missive criticizing the company’s 
diversity programs, offended fellow Harvard graduate students with an off-color skit during a 2012 retreat, 
prompting two professors to send an email apologizing for the performance..."


And by the way, the article also notes:

  "Damore left Harvard with a master’s degree in systems biology in 2013, and did not complete his PhD, the 
university says... Until Tuesday, Damore’s LinkedIn profile included “PhD, Systems Biology.” Damore appears to have 
changed the profile after WIRED reported that he had not completed the degree."


d/

-- 
Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net

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