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Re d: 5, 300 Wells Fargo employees fired over 2 million phony accounts
From: "David Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 13:24:51 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Peter Swire <peter () peterswire net> Subject: Re: [IP] Re d: 5, 300 Wells Fargo employees fired over 2 million phony accounts Date: September 13, 2016 at 1:17:12 PM EDT To: "dave () farber net" <dave () farber net> Hi Dave: I share the outrage about outrageous financial practices on Wall Street. They happened at grotesque scale in the mortgage market, especially near the end of the bubble in 2006-2008. I respect Dan Gillmor and often agree with him. I don’t agree the lack of criminal convictions should be seen as “Obama’s legacy.” As a lawyer who spent some time in a prosecutor’s office long ago, it is SUPER hard to get convictions beyond a reasonable doubt in many financial cases. Here is a NY Times story about the first Wall Street prosecution, in 2009. Two Bear, Stearns executives were prosecuted for lying to investors. They did lie — the Bear, Stearns frauds were especially egregious, as documented in the 2010 book “House of Cards.” What happened? The jury acquitted. “There was a reasonable doubt on every charge. We just didn’t feel that the case had been proven,” said Ryan Goolsby, one of the jurors. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/11/business/11bear.html <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/11/business/11bear.html?_r=0> Prosecutors can win if there is outright theft, or a clear insider trading case. Based on discussions I have had with prosecutors, the broad fraud claims are very, very hard to prove. Peter Prof. Peter Swire Huang Professor of Law and Ethics Scheller College of Business Georgia Institute of Technology Senior Counsel Alston & Bird LLP Ph: 240-994-4142 Web: www.peterswire.net <http://www.peterswire.net/> ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/18849915-ae8fa580 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=18849915&id_secret=18849915-aa268125 Unsubscribe Now: https://www.listbox.com/unsubscribe/?member_id=18849915&id_secret=18849915-32545cb4&post_id=20160913132504:FC694648-79D6-11E6-B400-09E0F010038B Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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