re policy based email delivery accept/decline?

[Dave Farber <dave () farber net>]

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com>
> Date: March 28, 2010 5:15:39 PM EDT
> To: dave () farber net
> Subject: policy based email delivery accept/decline?

> Oh that's just great -- that's all we need -- legal battles over
> sender vs. recipient rights in routine e-mail.
>
> First off, mailing list admins really have no way to know how many
> people on their lists actually use Gmail or any other mail system,
> since forwarding addresses could be pointing invisibly at other
> addresses unbeknownst to the list.
>
> But anyway, the message below suggests a misunderstanding of Gmail
> privacy policies.  If there is sensitive material going out on a
> mailing list, I'd be much more concerned about *human* recipients of
> the list "leaking" items to "unapproved" parties, rather than losing
> sleep over the keyword ad-scanning algorithms of Gmail (and the same
> for the vast numbers of spam and virus scanning systems that inspect
> every piece of inbound mail pretty much everywhere these days).  Gmail
> really doesn't care what you write about, other than from the
> standpoint of whether or not it can choose what it believes to be
> relevant ads for the recipient of the e-mail who has chosen to use
> Gmail.
>
> --Lauren--
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>
> On 03/28 16:36, Dave Farber wrote:
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > > From: Doug Humphrey <doug () joss com>
> > > Date: March 28, 2010 4:11:49 PM EDT
> > > To: David Farber <dave () farber net>
> > > Subject: policy based email delivery accept/decline ?
> >
> > > for IP if you like
> > >
> > > A question for a lot of smart people - is it reasonable to discuss a
> > > set of "policy" flags on email headers which express the originators
> > > sensitivity to certain practices exercised on emails?
> > >
> > > As an example, I am on a number of email lists, small things, and
> > > generally not at ALL what could be called "public".  When I send a
> > > message to a list like this, I do NOT feel that I am publishing in  
> > > any
> > > "public" sort of way, and it is understood among the members of the
> > > list that what is said on the list stays on the list.
> > >
> > > Recently, a couple of the members of the lists have started using
> > > Gmail
> > > accounts.  Since Gmail/Google has specific policies that allow it to
> > > treat that information as its own, within a limited scope, it brings
> > > into
> > > questions the privacy policy of the list, and its ability to enforce
> > > it.
> > >
> > > A simple answer is to ban the use of Gmail accounts from the list or
> > > to
> > > just tell people "if the Gmail thing bothers you don't send to the
> > > list" - but
> > > while this would work in the simple immediate case, it doesn't scale
> > > well, and there are larger questions.
> > >
> > > MIGHT there be a technical means, with the sender stating "policy"  
> > > on
> > > what they accept and decline to have their message subjected to, and
> > > the mail receiver stating their policy positions, and having  
> > > delivery
> > > be
> > > able to be rejected in case of a mismatch in policy?  Caller ID  
> > > works a
> > > lot like this with the sender deciding to allow it or not, and the
> > > receiver
> > > being able to accept calls that have blocked ID or not as their  
> > > policy
> > > dictates.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > doug
> >
> >
> >
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