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re LiebIerman bill lets president take emergency control of the Internet


From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:36:04 -0400





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From: Randall <rvh40 () insightbb com>
Date: June 11, 2010 2:36:49 PM EDT
To: David Farber <dave () farber net>, Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Subject: Re: [IP] LiebIerman bill lets president take emergency control of the Internet


On Jun 11, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Dave Farber wrote:

So translated, any company for which the telephone system or Internet is "essential" can be ordered by DHS to do 
anything the department wants, with warrantless wiretapping as the sole exception. There is no other limit to this 
power, no appeal process, and no judicial review. (How many companies would *not* fit into this elastic definition? 
Wouldn't your IP list qualify too?)

Now, I'm sure that DHS's defenders (Stewart Baker, are you reading this?) will say that we should trust the 
department and that it would not misuse this near-absolute authority. And they have a point. But that's a little 
like making it illegal to breathe and then trusting prosecutorial discretion to only put truly bad guys in prison. 
:)

In a true "Emergency", the President is going to do what the President wants to do, and no law or "damned piece of 
paper" is going to stop him.   Even in a fake emergency, the last President warrantlessly wiretapped untold millions 
of phone conversations despite the clear statutory and case law prohibitions on such action - and only Qwest refused 
to go along with his illegal request.   (In completely-unrelated news, the then-CEO of Qwest is currently serving a 
prison term for SEC violations.   Completely unrelated.   Of course.)




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