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Re: Re: Researchers fault 3-D Secure (3DS) online credit card system


From: Dave Farber <dfarber () me com>
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:16:21 -0500


From: "Richard Clayton" <richard () highwayman com>
To: "Lauren Weinstein" <lauren () vortex com>
Cc: <nnsquad () nnsquad org>
Date: January 29, 2010 04:14:29 PM EST
Subject: [ NNSquad ] Re: Researchers fault 3-D Secure (3DS) online credit card system

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In message <20100128204341.GA6159 () vortex com>, Lauren Weinstein
<lauren () vortex com> writes

Researchers fault 3-D Secure (3DS) online credit card system

http://bit.ly/a1ygc6  (PC World)

I have never been a fan of birthday-based and "secret-question"-based
systems.  Birthday data is widely available, and many "secret"
questions tend to have answers that are more widely available than
one might think.

in point of fact, one of the other University of Cambridge Security
Group papers at the same (FC10) conference was:

 http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~jcb82/doc/fc2010_name_guessing.pdf

 Joseph Bonneau, Mike Just, Greg Matthews: What's in a Name? Evaluating
 Statistical Attacks on Personal Knowledge Questions 

     Abstract. We study the efficiency of statistical attacks on human
     authentication systems relying on personal knowledge questions. We
     adapt techniques from guessing theory to measure security against
     a trawling attacker attempting to compromise a large number of
     strangers' accounts. We then examine a diverse corpus of real-
     world statistical distributions for likely answer categories such
     as the names of people, pets, and places and find that personal
     knowledge questions are significantly less secure than graphical
     or textual passwords. We also demonstrate that statistics can be
     used to increase security by proactively shaping the answer
     distribution to lower the prevalence of common responses.

I usually suggest that when there's a concern, secret questions
should be answered with anything memorable other than the
"real" answer.

Indeed so, setting your mother's maiden name to 6fdg$Gk4 will improve
your security posture considerably

- -- 
Dr Richard Clayton                         <richard.clayton () cl cam ac uk>
                                 tel: 01223 763570, mobile: 07887 794090
                   Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge, CB3 0FD

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