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Re: how many? google books
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 07:39:06 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: John Levine <johnl () iecc com> Date: May 22, 2009 8:15:16 PM EDT To: dave () farber net Subject: Re: [IP] Re: how many? google books
Dave, maybe someone knows how many orphan works there are?
Having done some informal research, I have to agree that much, perhaps the majority of stuff published from 1923 (the end of the public domain) through the 1930s is orphaned, and a fair amount of stuff in the following decades.
Also, isnt it on the author to keep up his own work or his family?
Here's the problem with orphaned works: under current US law, works are born copyrighted, and are only released into the public domain when the term is up (which no longer happens, since the movie industry lobbies Congress to extend the term every time that's imminent) or the author explicitly releases it, which is also very rare. So if I'm working on a project, and I'd like to use material from a book published in the 1930s, I have to find the copyright owner and get permission. I try to find the publisher, if they're still in business, or see if it's possible to track down the author, or more likely the heirs of the author. Maybe I find them, more often it leads to a dead end. Having made a diligent search, can I then assume it's safe to use the material? No! If I use it, and the owner later apears, he can sue me for very large statutory damages for infringement, and the fact that I tried to find him before doing so is not a defense. A reasonable solution, which has been proposed in a variety of bills in Congress, is to say that if I've made a good faith search and the owner later turns up, his royalties are limited to a reasonable amount so I know how much to budget. Some versions of this would have me pay the royalties into an escrow account, others would just have me pay if and when the owner appeared. The Google settlement basically uses class action law to get the same effect, except that the only user it applies to is Google, and that's the problem, it makes them the monopoly provider of access to orphaned works. The Congress could easily solve this problem by passing an orphan works law, such as S.2913 which was passed by the Senate in 2008 but died in the House. Regards,John Levine, johnl () iecc com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex- Mayor
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