Re: Icann Hires Former Cybersecurity Chief as New C.E.O. [with comments]

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

Begin forwarded message:

From: James Seng <james () seng sg>
Date: July 2, 2009 8:51:53 PM EDT
To: Bob Frankston <Bob19-0501 () bobf frankston com>, David Farber <dave () farber net 
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Cc: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Re: Icann Hires Former Cybersecurity Chief as New  
C.E.O.  [with comments]

I do not disagree with you on the problems of DNS, of its very nature  
that hook right within our network and create mini-monopoly economy.  
It is still a challenge how to really create

For example, we know that Search Engine gives a better user  
experience. Some browsers already drop the traditional address bar in  
replacement with a single "Search & Address Bar".

But until something else come along, DNS is what we have and we have  
to live with it.

The problem is fundamentally DNS. ICANN was not formed to "fix" DNS.  
It is formed to deal with the problem arises (e.g. competitions) with  
whatever fault that DNS has.

A side note to Rich Kulawiec who commented that phisher & spammer  
rushed into a new TLD. It is a often repeated statement that may be  
true at some stage in time but not so currently.

http://www.antiphishing.org/reports/APWG_GlobalPhishingSurvey2H2008.pdf

"Up to 81% of the domains used for phishing were “compromised” or  
hacked domains.
Phishing most often takes place on compromised Web servers, where the  
phishers place
their phishing pages unbeknownst to the site operators. This method  
gains the phishers free
hosting, and complicates take-down efforts because suspending a domain  
name or
hosting account also disables the resolution of the legitimate user’s  
site.  Phishing on a
compromised Web site typically takes place on a subdomain or in a  
subdirectory, where
the phish is not easily noticed by the site’s operator or visitors."

Phishing has moved on from trying to register their own domain names  
for their activities. It is easier to hijack an existing one and use  
it for a while before moving on.

-James Seng

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Bob Frankston <Bob19-0501 () bobf frankston com 
> wrote:
Whatever the original mission of ICANN was we’ve learned a lot since  
then we need to do more than spawn lots of little NSIs – that’s not  
competition, it’s just a feeding frenzy. ICANN isn’t addressing the  
fundamental dysfunction and failures of the DNS:

·         The DNS cannot be a directory but adding support for more  
languages only reinforces that misconception.

·         We still don’t stable identifiers – the new gTLDs just  
continue the tradition of creating billable events.


A fundamental principle of the Internet is that those outside the  
network create their own solutions. Yet the DNS has turned out to have  
been a failure – it keeps control firmly inside the network and it’s  
very existence frustrates efforts to move on. ICANN should be doing  
all it can to deprecate the DNS. As an interim the DNS should  
immediately and without any further ado provide for stable handles  
that don’t have semantic baggage and thus have no need to be reused.  
It should then encourage others like WIPO and private companies like  
Google, Skype, Microsoft etc to provide their own directory and  
registry services


Ultimately we mustn’t have to a fatal dependency on a single central  
point of failure and control like the DNS. In the meantime we should  
be doing what we can to reduce that dependency. It should also tackle  
the failed idea of the IP address that has made routing unnecessarily  
complicated and assured identifiers are not stable thus leading to the  
kludge called the DNS.


To put it another way – ICANN is a finger in the dike. We shouldn’t  
treat it as a solution but rather a reminder that dike is in desperate  
need of repair. Can an outsider provide the kind of stronger  
leadership necessary to move ICANN beyond its original mission so it  
can do what has to be done to assure the continued vibrancy of the  
dynamic we call “The Internet”?


-----Original Message-----
From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 09:14
To: ip
Subject: [IP] Re: Icann Hires Former Cybersecurity Chief as New C.E.O.  
[with comments]




Begin forwarded message:


From: James Seng <james () seng sg>

Date: June 29, 2009 9:42:42 PM EDT

To: dave () farber net

Cc: ip <ip () v2 listbox com>

Subject: Re: [IP] Icann Hires Former Cybersecurity Chief as New C.E.O.

[with  comments]


I have a lot of respect for Lauren for her [his djf]  work on numerous

issues on

Internet. So I am surprised and concerned about the tone Lauren has

taken on ICANN.


While there are certain room for improvement for ICANN in various

areas, the opening of new gTLD is an area that was a slated goal from

ICANN from its early days of formation of introducing competition to

back-then Network Solution and now Verisign.


Competition and choice for consumer is good. One may argue what the

balance should be, it is another take a position that ICANN is 'one

notch short of scam' in trying to introducing competition to the

marketplace.


-James Seng


On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:12 AM, David Farber<dave () farber net> wrote:

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>

> Begin forwarded message:

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> From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com>

> Date: June 27, 2009 11:09:15 AM EDT

> To: nnsquad () nnsquad org

> Subject: [ NNSquad ] Icann Hires Former Cybersecurity Chief as New

> C.E.O.

> [with comments]

>

>

> This decision had been rumored for weeks.  Three comments:

>

> 1) The more TLDs that are introduced, the more confusion there is

>   among both domain name holders and the Internet user community in

>   general (that is, the population of the world).  As such, the main

>   TLDs already in common use (com, net, org, edu + country TLDs)

>   gain in value and demand since they will increasingly stand out

>   amongst the clutter of MOBIes, SEXies, WIMPies, WACKies, and who

>   knows what else, most of which will quite rightly be treated by

>   consumers as confusing nonsense.  The driving force behind the

>   introduction of new TLDs at this stage is creating new profit

>   centers through consumer confusion, and ICANN has become the

>   primary enabler of a domain name regime that we can charitably

>   categorize as just one notch short of a scam.

>

> 2) ICANN is increasingly a white elephant whose original

>   justifications have been warped in ways that Kafka might have

>   appreciated, but that no longer tend to serve the interests of the

>   Internet community at large.  It is difficult to see how it

>   can have any long term future, especially given the international

>   forces in play.

>

> 3) To Rod Beckstrom: You thought things were screwed up at NCC?

>   You ain't seen nuthin' yet.  Lotsa luck ... you're gonna need it.

>

> --Lauren--

> NNSquad Moderator

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> http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/06/26/technology/AP-US-TEC-Internet-Names.html?ref=technology

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