Re: Announcing GCTIP - New Forums for Internet Transparency, Performance, and ISP Issues

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

Begin forwarded message:

From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com>
Date: February 16, 2009 10:08:07 PM EST
To: Brett Glass <brett () lariat net>
Cc: dave () farber net, ip <ip () v2 listbox com>, Vint Cerf <vint () google com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Announcing GCTIP - New Forums for Internet  
Transparency, Performance, and ISP Issues


Brett,

I mean this seriously -- I'd welcome your discussing this on the
Forums, and feel free to point whomever you want at the resulting
threads.  Measurement tools researchers have been tending to
work in isolation from each other, and from ISPs, and I really
do think that open discussion of related issues is important.
The more technical specificity you can bring to the table the
better of course.  As I stated, I *am* concerned that measurement
tools can be misused in various ways, either accidentally or
purposely, or simply through bad design and network interactions.

I'd welcome threads relating to your hands-on experiences
in this regard.

--Lauren--


On 02/16 19:49, Brett Glass wrote:
> At 07:27 PM 2/16/2009, Lauren Weinstein wrote:
>
> > Your participation in the GCTIP discussions is naturally welcome.
> > If you have technical issues related to various measurement tools,
> > GCTIP Forums is the perfect place to discuss them.
>
> There are both technical and ethical issues with those tools (which  
> were
> recently touted, incidentally, by the New America Foundation -- whose
> Chairman has no relation at all to Google other than being its CEO).  
> They
> either fail entirely or produce incorrect results on our network,  
> because
> they cannot comprehend our architecture. And they grossly understate  
> our
> speed. I hooked one of them up directly to a 7 Mbps feed, and it  
> reported
> a speed of 1.5 Mbps.
>
> In short, the tools are inaccurate and are defaming our business.
>
> --Brett Glass




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