Re: Regarding the "fight the patents" call... (Was: TODAY: Stop IETF Enactment of Patented Standard for TLS)

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

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From: Jari Arkko <jari.arkko () piuha net>
Date: February 11, 2009 10:34:04 AM EST
To: dave () farber net
Cc: "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood () cable comcast com>, seth.johnson () RealMeasures dyndns org
Subject: Regarding the "fight the patents" call... (Was: [IP] TODAY:  
Stop IETF Enactment of Patented Standard for TLS)

For IP, if deemed worthy:

I'm not sure how useful the TLS authorization standard is, and from  
what I've read there's a good case to be made on technical and process  
grounds that it should not become a standard. For instance, the IETF  
TLS working group chairs believe that it has technical problems and  
that an extension such as this should come from their WG in order to  
ensure that it is properly reviewed.

However, for fairness you should probably note that the FSF campaign  
is quite controversial, both in the manner it is delivered as well as  
what the facts are. A couple of pointers to messages from well known  
IETF folks on this topic below:

http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg55410.html by  
Noel Chiappa
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg55392.html by  
Brian Carpenter

I have not researched this topic or checked the facts myself (yet),  
but I thought it would be useful to note that there's quite a bit of  
controversy. Note that the IETF crowd is generally very interested in  
avoiding patents in their work, particularly if the license conditions  
are not free use for everyone. Of course, working groups can decide to  
use technology even if it is encumbered, and some have done so. And as  
always with IPR, we may not even know about all the cases...

Jari Arkko





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