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re READ WITH A Tranquilizer in hand -- No One Is Going To Save You Fools


From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 20:16:21 -0500





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From: gregb () west-third com
Date: December 20, 2009 8:02:59 PM EST
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] READ WITH A Tranquilizer in hand -- No One Is Going To Save You Fools


Dave, for IP if you wish.

I don't want to create a screed to refute a screed, but a couple of points
are worth mentioning:

I'd agree that the right has a more effective (or perhaps a better phrase is more pervasive) messaging infrastructure -- it's been that way at least since my think-tank and editorial-board days 20 years ago. But rather than
being some sort of knockout blow, it's been an offset to the left's
historic strongholds in voter registration, get-out-the-vote efforts and popular culture influences. As in so many areas of endeavor, competitors
evolve skills that give them unique advantages.

Are some people bedazzled and boondoggled by slick messaging campaigns?
Yes. But a significant number of people simply don't trust our
governmental institutions anymore and will, all things considered, put
their trust in almost any other option before they hand over more control or more funds to a government they view as ineffective and not working in
their interests.

You can argue that those same Sinister Corporate Interests created this environment -- and maybe, at some level, they did. But not by themselves.

We didn't get to today's level of polarized, research-driven and
destructive political discourse because a bunch of corporate money and
right-wing hacks drug us there, kicking and screaming, all by themselves.
There's more to it than that, and to suggest otherwise is wildly
simplistic.

Warm Regards,
Greg Brooks
West Third Group








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From: dewayne () warpspeed com (Dewayne Hendricks)
Date: December 19, 2009 12:30:38 AM EST
To: Dewayne-Net Technology List <xyzzy () warpspeed com>
Subject: [Dewayne-Net] No One Is Going To Save You Fools

No One Is Going To Save You Fools
by thereisnospoon
Wed Dec 16, 2009 at 04:28:17 PM PST
<http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/12/16/815429/-No-One-Is-Going-To-Save-You-Fools >

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