Re: American Airlines to Filter Pornography

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

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From: "Steven J. Manning" <sjmanning () fymc com>
Date: October 8, 2008 1:29:13 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] Re:   American Airlines to Filter Pornography
Reply-To: sjmanning () fymc com

Hi Dave.

For IP if you wish.

The notion of Internet access on airplanes is as old as the first  
commercial applications on the net.  It occurs that the delay in  
giving passengers, bovine and otherwise such access has been delayed  
for reasons that are as absurd as most airlines' basic operations/ 
economic paradigms.  And in the same category of cutting edge thinking  
of prohibiting the use of mobile phones on airlines.  Oh yes.  That  
should be/should have already happened.

Foolish stuff.  At the end of the day, airlines' share of SMS revenues  
will eclipse any revenues they dreamt of generating from on board  
telephones.

I implore the fine thinkers among the airlines' leaders (now, there is  
a veritable intellectual Rubiks' cube):  think out what you will do  
when I get really fed up with the dude in the adjacent seat who goes  
thru his second auxiliary battery, having a 3 hour loud and animated  
conversation in a language I don't speak.  At least he can extend me  
the courtesy in speaking one of the languages I speak so that I can  
listen in !  Perhaps I can offer ideas, suggestions, concepts,  
matrices (behavioral or otherwise) or prevent imminent suicide.

As to internet access, that is a given.  As a practical matter,  
airlines will start with some filters which will quickly mature to  
many and rather inclusive filters.  I can see AA and others  
restricting browser access, for instance, to a browser of the  
airlines' choice (by contract) branded and tailored for airline use.   
The Singapore Airlines GOOGLE!  Of course that will happen!

It is a clear revenue generating opportunity.

No matter. As long as the good folks jammed in seats with 17% less leg  
room then required by ordinary homosepians can retrieve and send email.

As to bovine vs. business/first class, Lauren, you can alway buy a  
round trip first class seat 'with shower' facilities from Los Angeles  
to Sydney for only $24,000.00.  Now that is a lot of hamburgers.

Regards.

Steve.

David Farber wrote:
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com>
> Date: October 8, 2008 12:23:27 PM EDT
> To: dave () farber net
> Cc: lauren () vortex com
> Subject: Re: [IP] American Airlines to Filter Pornography
>
>
> Dave,
>
> How is American Airlines defining pornography again?  Topless photos?
> Fully naked photos?  Nasty textual descriptions?  Can passengers
> browse to the Playboy Web site, or the illustrated
> sexually-transmitted diseases prevention section of a health site?
> Does this prohibition only apply to "porn" -- or are non-sexual
> "violent and disgusting" images sites also forbidden?
>
> Seriously, will passengers be able to access Google Images or
> Flickr?  YouTube?  There's no telling what sorts of goodies will pop
> up on those that *someone* snooping at your laptop might find
> upsetting!  We can't have anyone upset regarding what *you're*
> looking at now can we?
>
> Of course we know what AA will likely do.  They'll presumably use
> one of the commercial filtering services that employ arbitrary block
> lists and can usually be trivially bypassed via simple proxies and
> other means.
>
> And like most other Internet censors, AA will probably keep adding
> to the prohibited list over time, in a desperate but hopeless attempt
> at information control for ostensibly noble aims.
>
> If AA put more effort into treating their passengers as at least a
> higher class of cattle instead of playing Internet sex cop, we'd
> all be better off.
>
> --Lauren--
> Lauren Weinstein
> lauren () vortex com or lauren () pfir org
> Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800
> http://www.pfir.org/lauren
> Co-Founder, PFIR
>   - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org
> Co-Founder, NNSquad
>   - Network Neutrality Squad - http://www.nnsquad.org
> Founder, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com
> Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy
> Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com
>
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>
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > From: Robert Atkinson <rca53 () columbia edu>
> > Date: October 8, 2008 10:55:00 AM EDT
> > To: David Farber <dave () farber net>
> > Subject: American Airlines to Filter Pornography
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > To update the earlier discussion of this topic, according to an  
> > AP=20=20
> > story in today=92s New York Times, American Airlines announced  
> > yesterday=20=
> > =20
> > that it =93would filter an in-flight Internet service to block=20=20
> > pornography sites after complaints from flight attendants and=20=20
> > passengers.=94 However, the article also noted that  
> > =93American...said it=
> > =20=20
> > had not received reports that passengers were viewing  
> > =91inappropriate=20=
> > =20
> > content=92 on the Gogo in-flight service but said filtering was  
> > =91an=20=20
> > appropriate measure to take.=92  So, apparently a pre-emptive  
> > action=20=20
> > rather than one based on actual use.
> >
> > What=92s the expectation on when a complaint will be filed at the  
> > FCC=20=20
> > alleging that AA=92s action violates the Commission=92s  
> > Broadband=20=20
> > Principles?
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > --
> > Come to CITI's 25th anniversary celebration,
> > The International Summit on Communication & Media:
> > October 30, Gala Dinner
> > October 31, Conference
> > The Next Generation of Communication -
> > The Dawning of the Ultra-Broadband Era
> > For more information go to:
> > http://www4.gsb.columbia.edu/citi/events/summit2008
> >
> > Robert C. Atkinson
> > Director of Policy Research
> > Columbia Institute for Tele-Information (CITI)
> > http://www.citi.columbia.edu
> >
> > office: 212-854-7576
> > mobile: 908-447-4201
> >
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> > alt: bob () robertcatkinson com
> >
> >
> >
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> > =3D"font-size:12.0px">Dave,<br> <br> To update the earlier  
> > discussion of th=
> > is topic, according to an AP story in today=92s New York Times,  
> > American Ai=
> > rlines announced yesterday that it =93would filter an in-flight  
> > Internet se=
> > rvice to block pornography sites after complaints from flight  
> > attendants an=
> > d passengers.=94 However, the article also noted that  
> > =93American...said it=
> > had not received reports that passengers were viewing  
> > =91inappropriate con=
> > tent=92 on the Gogo in-flight service but said filtering was =91an  
> > appropri=
> > ate measure to take.=92 &nbsp;So, apparently a pre-emptive action  
> > rather th=
> > an one based on actual use.<br> <br> What=92s the expectation on  
> > when a com=
> > plaint will be filed at the FCC alleging that AA=92s action  
> > violates the Co=
> > mmission=92s Broadband Principles?<br> <br> Bob<br> <br> --<br>  
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> > Summit on Co=
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> > <b>October =
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