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Re: Your comments appreciated: Beyond White Spaces
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:43:03 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: dewayne () warpspeed com (Dewayne Hendricks) Date: October 23, 2008 9:48:10 AM EDT To: Dewayne-Net Technology List <xyzzy () warpspeed com>Subject: [Dewayne-Net] re: Your comments appreciated: Beyond White Spaces
[Note: This comment comes from friend Chuck Jackson. DLH] From: "Charles Jackson" <clj () jacksons net> Date: October 23, 2008 6:33:35 AM PDT To: "'Dewayne Hendricks'" <dewayne () warpspeed com>Subject: RE: [Dewayne-Net] Your comments appreciated: Beyond White Spaces
I think that David Isenberg is right in his analysis of the TV white spaces
issue. However, reading his note prompted several thoughts. First, for an interesting discussion of the HomeRF/802.11 evolution see<http://www.iep.gmu.edu/documents/WLAN_History_Paper.pdf>. Reading that paper gives a lot of insight into why 802.11 prevailed in the marketplace. It's written by someone who was on the HomeRF side-but it seems quite unbiased to
and fair to me. In 1999, it was quite reasonable to expect HomeRF to prevail in the marketplace. Second, there's a great book called "The Triumph of Ethernet" by Urs von Burg, Stanford University Press, which examines how Ethernet, which many thought inferior to Token-Ring, won in the marketplace. One factor that helped Ethernet win was the fact that IBM effectively controlled the token-ring standard and, if you were a small guy in the industry, you probably preferred to build products that IBM could not make obsolete overnight.Third, some thoughts on the white space debate. A caveat, I'm a participant
in that debate. I've taken the position that licensing the white space would deliver far more to consumers than would unlicensed white space. Unlicensed white space devices will be inferior to current WiFi in mostincarnations. They will probably be built to use 6 MHz channels-but 802.11 now uses 40 MHz. At short ranges, it's bandwidth that determines capacity. So, unlicensed devices at 2.4 and 5 GHz will outperform unlicensed devices
in the TV white space. Relatedly, MIMO capabilities are expected to be better at 2.4 and 5 GHz than in the white space. That superiority willprobably create another factor of 2 or 3 advantage in short-range capacity
for 2.4 and 5 GHz systems. Together, these factors create a capacity advantage for 2.4 and 5 GHz 802.1 of about a factor of 10 or 20.For long ranges, the power limits on the unlicensed devices reduce possible coverage and run up costs. Licensed services in the 700 MHz band and the
PCS can use base station powers three thousand times higher than areproposed for unlicensed TV white space fixed stations. Propagation may be
better in the low UHF (white space) than in the PCS band, but not 3,000times better. (Actually, "better propagation" is a complex issue-and it is not necessarily the case that propagation is "better" at the low UHF. It
all depends upon what the meaning of "better" is.)It's hard to think of any engineering model in which one can provide rural
coverage with unlicensed TV white space devices at costs anywhere thosepossible for the current licensed operators. For a quantitative exposition
of the inability of TV white spaces to provide rural coverage see <http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdf&id_documen t=6520176878>Finally, there is a key issue in the white space debate that the advocates of unlicensed completely fumble. That is, "How do we put in place rules and incentives that will make it easy to transition the current TV spectrum to other uses when that transition makes sense?" A licensed approach creates
mechanisms for doing so. See, for example, Hazlett and Smith's op-ed in the WSJ. <http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122299012125700337.html>In contrast, if the white space is filled up with wireless X-box controllers and cordless phones, it will be far harder to transition the TV bands to new
technologies and new uses.I think that David's hint that unlicensed devices in the TV white space will be a dud in the market is correct. 802.11 at 2.4 and 5 GHz beats them for
short range; the power is too weak for long range.This message is already long enough, but if anyone wants more on the topic,
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