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Google could be superseded, says web inventor from From Times Online UK


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:55:46 -0700


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From: Lauren Weinstein [lauren () vortex com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:52 PM
To: David Farber
Cc: lauren () vortex com
Subject: Re: [IP] Google could be superseded, says web inventor from From Times Online UK

Dave,

Google superseded?  Eventually, sure, all things change or pass.
But assuming for the sake of the argument that Tim's vision is
accurate, I can't think of any firm better positioned to develop
such technology than Google itself.  Such a system, replete with
enormous scaling requirements and similarly-sized security and
privacy needs, would necessitate vast infrastructural resources,
of the sort that Google has been busily deploying.  In fact, it could
be argued that Tim's outline represents a logical evolution of
existing Google services, rather than a dramatic departure from them.

--Lauren--
Lauren Weinstein
lauren () vortex com or lauren () pfir org
Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800
http://www.pfir.org/lauren
Co-Founder, PFIR
   - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org
Co-Founder, NNSquad
   - Network Neutrality Squad - http://www.nnsquad.org
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Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy
Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com

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 From Times Online
March 12, 2008
Google could be superseded, says web inventor

The next generation of web technology is likely to be far more
powerful than the current crop, Tim Berners-Lee said

Ethernet cables going into a broadband router ( pic taken from web and
photoshopped ) techstock
Jonathan Richards
Google may eventually be displaced as the pre-eminent brand on the
internet by a company that harnesses the power of next-generation web
technology, the inventor of the World Wide Web has said.

The search giant had developed an extremely effective way of searching
for pages on the internet, Tim Berners-Lee said, but that ability
paled in comparison to what could be achieved on the "web of the
future", which he said would allow any piece of information — such as
a photo or a bank statement — to be linked to any other.

Mr Berners-Lee said that in the same way, the "current craze" for
social networking sites like Facebook and MySpace would eventually be
superceded by networks that connected all types of things — not just
people — thanks to a ground-breaking technology known as the "semantic
web".

The semantic web is the term used by the computer and internet
industry to describe the next phase of the web's development, and
essentially involves building web-based connectivity into any piece of
data — not just a web page — so that it can "communicate" with other
information.

Whereas the existing web is a collection of pages with links between
them that Google and other search engines help the user to navigate,
the "semantic web" will enable direct connectivity between much more
low-level pieces of information — a written street address and a map,
for instance — which in turn will give rise to new services.

"Using the semantic web, you can build applications that are much more
powerful than anything on the regular web," Mr Berners-Lee said.
"Imagine if two completely separate things — your bank statements and
your calendar — spoke the same language and could share information
with one another. You could drag one on top of the other and a whole
bunch of dots would appear showing you when you spent your money.

"If you still weren't sure of where you were when you made a
particular transaction, you could then drag your photo album on top of
the calendar, and be reminded that you used your credit card at the
same time you were taking pictures of your kids at a theme park. So
you wouldd know not to claim it as a tax deduction.

"It's about creating a seamless web of all the data in your life."

One example frequently given is of typing a street address which, if
it had "semantic data" built into it, would link directly to a map
showing its location, dispensing with the need to go to a site like
Google `maps, type in the address, get the link and paste it into a
document or e-mail.

The challenge, experts say, is in finding a way to represent all data
so that when it is connected to the web, links to other relevant
information can be recognised and established — a bit like the process
known as "tagging". One expected application is in the pharmaceutical
industry, where previously unconnected pieces of research into a drug
or disease, say, could be brought together and assimilated.

Mr Berners-Lee, who invented the World Wide Web in 1989 while a fellow
at CERN, the European Organsation for Nuclear Research in Switzerland,
would not be drawn on the type of application that the "Google of the
future" would develop, but said it would likely be a type of "mega-
mash-up", where information is taken from one place and made useful in
another context using the web.

Existing "mash-ups", such as progams that plotted the location of
every Starbucks in a city using Google maps, were a start, he said in
an interview with Times Online, but they were limited because a
separate application had to be built each time a new service was
imagined.

"In the semantic web, it's like every piece of data is given a
longitude and latitute on a map, and anyone can 'mash' them together
and use them for different things."

Mr Berners-Lee, who is now a director of the Web Science Research
Initiative, a collaborative project between the Massachusetts
Institute of Technology and the University of Southampton, sought to
put into context the rapid growth of social networking sites in recent
years, saying that once the semantic web was rolled out they would be
thought of as one of many types of network available.

"At the moment, people are very excited about all these connections
being made between people — for obvious reasons, because people are
important — but I think after a while people will realise that there
are many other things you can connect to via the web."

He also spoke about what he described as one of the key challenges of
the web today — confronting the security risks associated with large
databases of information that were attractive to criminals and
identity fraudsters.

"There are definitely better ways of managing that threat. I think
we're soon going to see a new tipping point where different types of
crimes become possible and lucrative, and it's something we constantly
have to be aware of.

"One option is to build systems which more effectively track what
information you've used to perform a particular task, and make sure
people aren't using their authority to do things that they shouldn't
be doing."

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