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Re: Charles Krauthammer - The Ever-Malleable Mr. Obama - washingtonpost.com


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 05:17:08 -0700

I want to emphasize for the new IPers, that I present all views re political and social views -- many of which I 
disagree with , many I agree with. You decide what is the truth.

Dave

"Ye shall know the TRUTH and the TRUTH shall make you FREE" - John 8:32
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From: Tom Fairlie [tfairlie () frontiernet net]
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 10:46 PM
To: David Farber
Subject: Re: [IP] Charles Krauthammer - The Ever-Malleable Mr. Obama - washingtonpost.com

Ugh!

Do we side with Mr. Krauthammer, the pundit who frequently
proves that two (or more) wrongs can indeed make one "right", or
should we stick with Obama because (as he so earnestly tells us)
he's the only person that can undo our Bushian tragedy?

Our country historically vascillates between bad and really bad
candidates and I predict an easy victory for the "bad" Obama this
Fall over the "really bad" McCain. Then, once the "bad" Dems take
Executive and Legislative control over those "really bad" Republicans,
you'll see us return to the "slow bleed" that they've perfected so well.

(The only optimism I have left is that a strong Republican minority and
a Republican SCOTUS may create some good old fashioned gridlock.)

FISA will be gutted as planned (perhaps FOIA will finally be rendered
moot as well) and at least 90% of the damage that Bush has done to
our constitution will be left intact just as Clinton left most of Bush 41
and Reagan's disastrous legacy intact as well.

The polarizing charade we've been playing for decades has almost
been perfected. The vast majority of people I talk to (most of whom
have graduate degrees) still buy into this left/right, good/bad, and
liberal/conservative crap.

I hope the people reading IP are better than that. I hope they hold
Obama (or McCain, if some dislocating event happens) accountable
for his actions once in the White House. I also hope that Obama
proves somewhat more savvy than John Kennedy. Kennedy was
(tragically) the only president since WWII to figure out how the game
is really played *and* choose to do something about it. We desperately
need someone who can take the take the game farther than JFK did.

Tom Fairlie

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Farber" <dave () farber net>
To: "ip" <ip () v2 listbox com>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:00 PM
Subject: [IP] Charles Krauthammer - The Ever-Malleable Mr. Obama -
washingtonpost.com


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/26/AR2008062603653.html?nav=hcmodule

The Ever-Malleable Mr. Obama

By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, June 27, 2008; Page A17

"To be clear: Barack will support a filibuster of any bill that  includes
retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies."

-- Obama spokesman Bill Burton, Oct. 24, 2007

That was then: Democratic primaries to be won, netroot lefties to be
seduced. With all that (and Hillary Clinton) out of the way, Obama now
says he'll vote in favor of the new FISA bill that gives the telecom
companies blanket immunity for post-Sept. 11 eavesdropping.

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