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Re: My [Phil Karn] position on Comcastidiocy
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:55:06 -0800
________________________________________ From: Suresh Ramasubramanian [suresh () hserus net] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 9:00 PM To: Phil Karn Cc: 'Seth Finkelstein'; zwhite () darkstar frop org; arachnid () notdot net; rsk () gsp org; 'Karl Auerbach'; David Farber Subject: Re: [IP] My [Phil Karn] position on Comcastidiocy Phil Karn [21/01/08 14:09 -0800]:
I think we might find some common ground here. My objection to port 25 blocking (and to blocking in general) comes from its involuntary, heavy-handed and arbitrary nature. Were customers able to remove such blocks, ideally through a web page without human assistance, my objections would dissipate.
Dave Crocker did point that out. Cust supp nightmare. Clued users tend to pay a bit extra for static IPs (if at least to get around that pesky little AUP clause that says "no servers on a home broadband connection)" And trying to impose port 25 filtering on a per user basis - based on (say) volumes - can be a nightmare too. Especially when someone like Prof Farber gets blocked. As this thread shows. In fact, Dave's put it much better than I could. Unpleasant but necessary to block port 25 on customer assigned dynamic IP space. Phil Pennock's comments in another email are very good indeed, but in the context of the ISP he used to run ops for .. Demon Internet. [1] Static IPs and [2] A higher than average percentage of clued customers. You wont find ISPs who apply blanket port 25 filters on their static IP assignments srs ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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