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Re: WORTH READING Free Press Proposes Broadband Infrastructure Bailout of $44Billion --- More Taxes to Give Wealthy Companies that Failedto Build Out Their Networks]
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:54:30 -0500
Begin forwarded message: From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com> Date: December 31, 2008 12:00:19 PM EST To: David Farber <dave () farber net>Subject: Re: [IP] WORTH READING Free Press Proposes Broadband Infrastructure Bailout of $44Billion --- More Taxes to Give Wealthy Companies that Failedto Build Out Their Networks]
Dave, You, me, and many others have made this point over and over again. A key reason that there's so much skepticism about ISP deployment promises is that we've been screwed on this score repeatedly. Unless there are ironclad requirements for truly neutral, open access deployments, there's no good reason to assume that ISPs will behave any differently than they have in the past. To wit: cherry-picking locations, giving themselves the lion's share of bandwidth for their own content, blocking ports, arbitrarily prohibiting servers and other applications, and nowadays even modifying user data, spying on user data, trying to charge unaffiliated Web services for access to customers, and of course implementing arbitrary and anticompetitive bandwidth caps. Any new public funding/tax incentives for ISP broadband deployment should be predicated on a reasonable regulatory approach, including disclosure, transparency, neutrality, and an understanding that we're not going to throw money at the ISPs the way we just did with the financial services sector. --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren () vortex com or lauren () pfir org Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 http://www.pfir.org/lauren Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Co-Founder, NNSquad - Network Neutrality Squad - http://www.nnsquad.org Founder, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com - - - On 12/31 10:12, David Farber wrote:
Begin forwarded message: From: "Bruce Kushnick" <bruce () newnetworks com> Date: December 30, 2008 7:42:04 PM EST To: <dave () farber net> Subject: RE: [IP] Re: Free Press Proposes Broadband Infrastructure Bailout of $44Billion --- More Taxes to Give Wealthy Companies that Failedto Build Out Their Networks] I don't think most people understand just how we got played about broadband deployment and now just want to raise taxes to give companies that failed us. Dave wrote:2. promises will be made that will not be kept ( remember the promises.made in Pennsylvania and not kept) Here's a 1996 press release from Verizon --- About PA and the rest of their territories... http://newscenter.verizon.com/press-releases/bell-atlantic/1996/page.jsp?ite mID=29607541Bell Atlantic plans to begin its network upgrade in Philadelphia andsoutheastern Pennsylvania later this year. The company plans to expandthis Full Service Network deployment to other key markets over the next three years. Ultimately, Bell Atlantic expects to serve most of the 12 million homes and small businesses across the mid-Atlantic region with switched broadband networks.Each state was given a) massive tax deductions - billions per state --- and changes todepreciation so they could write off the copper plant -- which was neverreplaced. b) the removal of regulation on profits, so that the profits went from 12-14% to 29% --- c) No regulator went back and got the money, which is still being collected today in virtually every Verizon state.And in the rural areas, most of the rural carriers have received massive financial help from the USF fund -- and many have obscene profit marginsbecause of it. The reason we don't have broadband is because these companies can say anything, then not do anything... giving them more money is simply throwing it away. It will not increase broadband deployment as there will be no mechanism to compel them once they got the money and no regulator with enough moxey to do anything about it... History, not hope, is what we should be examining... Bruce Kushnick. ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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