Re: 2 on fingerprinting in Japan

[David Farber <dfarber () cs cmu edu>]

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From: Joichi Ito <jito () neoteny com>
Date: November 22, 2007 4:26:14 PM EST
To: dave () farber net
Cc: ip () v2 listbox com
Subject: Re: [IP] Re:   fingerprinting in Japan

The US requires fingerprints for many kinds of visas including some  
benefits for permanent residents. Also, I think they require a  
photograph showing your earlobe as another biometric. It's on your  
card. It is slightly different from requiring a finger print every  
time you enter the country, but it's not really true that  
"fingerprinting requirements don't apply to permanent residents."

See: 
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=b6629c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD&vgnextchannel=b6629c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD

Also, as far as I know, the Japanese are not fingerprinting transit  
passengers. My understanding is that even if you are just connecting  
via a US city, you still have to fill out the forms and get scanning.

Basically I think that expecting us to go through US fingerprinting to  
visit the US, then deciding not to go to Japan because of  
fingerprinting is slightly hypocritical unless you have been vocally  
opposed to the fingerprinting in the US.

Anyway, maybe this is a good opportunity for American who travel to  
Japan to take a good look at what the US does to its visitors and be  
reflective. I think a lot of Japanese government behavior just tracks  
what the US does and often is "encouraged" by the US. See crypto  
exports, the new Japanese corporate law or "JSOX" and copyright terms  
for other examples.

- Joi

From: "Brock N. Meeks" <bmeeks () cox net>
Date: November 22, 2007 7:28:47 PM EST
To: <dave () farber net>
Subject: Re: [IP] Re:   fingerprinting in Japan

Yep, it's a heinous U.S. policy as well; does that make it OK for  
others to
emulate?

But hey, I'd advocate the same thing:  stay home; don't come to the U.S.

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