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Re: SECOND djf Behind the wheel, on the phone, styling hair... / More and more multi tasking drivers are bringing real danger to the road
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 11:38:43 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com> Date: May 29, 2007 11:06:29 AM EDT To: dave () farber net Cc: lauren () vortex comSubject: Re: [IP] Re: SECOND djf Behind the wheel, on the phone, styling hair... / More and more multi tasking drivers are bringing real danger to the road
Dave, This is another example of why "feel-good" laws like the ones that ban use of hand-held cell phones when driving (which I have publicly editorialized against for years) are such an example of political pandering. California pulls the trigger on such a law a year from now, even with the primary author admitting that the science shows that there's no significant distraction difference between talking on a hand-held vs. handsfree cell phone. If you banned *all* use of any kind of cell phone when driving, you might make an incremental difference, but in the U.S. there's no stomach for that. If cell phones were the massive distraction that some people claim, we'd have seen major accident increases over the years since they were introduced. We haven't. The reason is simple, cell phones don't rank very highly on the distraction list -- worst are outside distractions (something you see on the street) and other people in the car (e.g. kids in the back seat). But we don't see calls to ban kids in cars. Feel good laws == stupid laws that often distract us (no pun intended) from the underlying issues. Banning kids from cars. Hmm..... --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren () vortex com or lauren () pfir org Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 http://www.pfir.org/lauren Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Co-Founder, IOIC - International Open Internet Coalition - http://www.ioic.net Founder, CIFIP - California Initiative For Internet Privacy - http://www.cifip.org Founder, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com DayThink: http://daythink.vortex.com - - -
Begin forwarded message: From: "Synthesis: Law and Technology" <synthesis.law.and.technology () gmail com> Date: May 29, 2007 10:31:01 AM EDT To: dave () farber net Cc: ip () v2 listbox com Subject: Re: [IP] Behind the wheel, on the phone, styling hair... /More and more multi tasking drivers are bringing real danger to the roadDave, I see the same things the troopers do, pretty much every day. But I don't think it is new. Long before Blackberries existed you could spot at least one woman every day putting on makeup with both hands and steering with her knees. Not to single out the women, the men were doing equally stupid things. I think the stupidity remains the same, just the tools have changed. The driver who drove off the road and rammed into a bridge abutment to avoid rear-ending me 15 years ago was trying to cut something (Pizza?) before realizing at the last minute taht all ttaffic in front of him was stopped. Today if he is still on the road, he would be defrosting sushi by taking advantage of his dual-zone climate control and holding it infront of hot air vents instead (keeping the other side on ice cold to balance out the heat). I really don't think it is the technology that endangers. It has always been the idiots. Dan Steinberg SYNTHESIS:Law & Technology 35, du Ravin phone: (613) 794-5356 Chelsea, Quebec J9B 1N1 On 5/28/07, David Farber <dave () farber net> wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: dewayne () warpspeed com (Dewayne Hendricks) Date: May 28, 2007 11:28:53 AM EDT To: Dewayne-Net Technology List <xyzzy () warpspeed com> Subject: [Dewayne-Net] Behind the wheel, on the phone, styling hair... / More and more multi tasking drivers are bringing real danger to the road [Note: This item comes from reader Monty Solomon. DLH] From: Monty Solomon <monty () roscom com > Date: May 28, 2007 6:00:35 AM PDT Subject: Behind the wheel, on the phone, styling hair... / More and more multi tasking drivers are bringing real danger to the road Behind the wheel, on the phone, styling hair...More and more multi tasking drivers are bringing real danger to the roadBy Mac Daniel, Globe Staff | May 27, 2007 State Police talk about the time they pulled up to a guy in a fender-bender on Interstate 290 with his airbags deployed and the interior spattered in red. They rushed for their medical kits, only to find it wasn't blood they were looking at, but tomato sauce. The driver had been dining on pasta behind the wheel. Just last week, State Police Lieutenant James A. Jones noticed a man trying to pull his dress shirt over his head, then continuing a wardrobe change, all while driving on Route 24. "I was about to turn on my blue lights when he stands up," Jones said. "He's taking off his pants." Other motorists are doing crossword puzzles or reading books in stop-and-go traffic on Route 128, styling their hair while navigating the Massachusetts Turnpike, or pecking away on laptops perched on the passenger seat on the Southeast Expressway. Troopers also say they often pull over teenagers for text messaging while driving. One motorist was spotted watching a DVD on his laptop. And there was the driver pulled over on Interstate 93 while trying to eat a bowl of cereal. With an average commute of nearly 30 minutes each way in the Boston area and the growing popularity of BlackBerries, text messaging, iPods, and in-dash navigation systems complete with Zagat restaurant guides, law enforcement officials, safety researchers, and insurance executives are increasingly worried that the very technology designed to make life easier is actually endangering drivers. .. < http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2007/05/27/ behind_the_wheel_on_the_phone_styling_hair/> ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com -- Dan Steinberg SYNTHESIS:Law & Technology 35, du Ravin phone: (613) 794-5356 Chelsea, Quebec J9B 1N1 ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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