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Re: EXcellent article on Google's scanning strategy


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 09:58:25 -0500



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From: Thomas Lord <lord () emf net>
Date: February 12, 2007 2:05:44 AM EST
To: dave () farber net
Cc: ip () v2 listbox com
Subject: Re: [IP] EXcellent article on Google's scanning strategy

The "do it, get sued, settle" strategy was apparent from the beginning but aren't there two remaining legal problems?

First, by my (layperson's) reading of the federal code, the libraries and Google are colluding in a criminal act which is explicitly anticipated by and forbidden by the law (read the federal copyright code sections that pertain specifically to libraries). Don't the publishers have enough leverage to seize the databases of scanned books, prohibit Google from using them, and collect damages? Better be a heck of a settlement offer.

Second, supposing (as is likely the case) the publishers really want Google to operate this database then, sure, they can give retroactive copyright forgiveness and future permission to Google, letting many of our nation's most important libraries off the hook. And then comes the second problem: antitrust violations. Why does Google get uniquely privileged access to all of this data?

One can guess (or else suggest) that Google's competitors should be assisting with the suit against Google with the aim of creating a truly competitive environment for maintaining and providing access to the digital archives.

What an odd country we live in.

-t



David Farber wrote:


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From: Ted Nelson <tandm () xanadu net>
Date: February 12, 2007 12:52:36 AM EST
To: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Cc: Ted Nelson <tandm () xanadu net>
Subject: recorrected :xu: EXcellent article on Google's scanning strategy
Reply-To: tandm () xanadu net

Hi Dave--


Everybody wonders what Google is going to do next.

Here's a great piece called "Google's Moon Shot"--

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/070205fa_fact_toobin
 printable at
http://www.newyorker.com/printables/fact/070205fa_fact_toobin

Thiis excellent piece (from the Feb 12 New Yorker) describes the
 current strange situation-- all the major American publishers are
 suing Google for scanning their books without permission;
 Google is expected to PAY THEM OFF, which it can easily afford,
 gaining the keys to the kingdom.

How to deliver final information to users-- this is where I think
 the Xanadu Project, with its design for parallel media views
 and recomposition, is still highly relevant.

CheersT


--Theodor Holm Nelson
  Visiting Fellow, Oxford Internet Institute
  Visiting Professor, University of Southampton
  Founder, Project Xanadu



--Theodor Holm Nelson
  Visiting Fellow, Oxford Internet Institute
  Visiting Professor, University of Southampton
  Founder, Project Xanadu

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