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more on 60 Minutes gets its hands on the no-fly list


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 15:37:23 -0400



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From: Twister <twister () stop1984 com> (Bettina Winsemann)
Date: October 8, 2006 3:26:29 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] more on 60 Minutes gets its hands on the no-fly list

Hi, Dave

On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 15:15:03 -0400
David Farber <dave () farber net> sed:

An idea that came to my mins LAO DJF

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From: Edward DeMeulle <ed () demeulle org>
Date: October 8, 2006 3:11:00 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] 60 Minutes gets its hands on the no-fly list

I did a quick search, there are over 12,000 Robert Johnson's. It
would seem that the next step will be terrorists polluting of the 'No
Fly' list with bogus traffic. How many thousands of people with the
names John Smith, Jane Smith, Robert Smith, and so on will it take to
overload the system and make it impossible to travel effectively?

It might not be suitable (I am not sure) but it might be interesting that the USA and the European Union have agreed on a new intermediate agreement regarding the transfer of passenger data. 34 data pieces will be given to the USA, polluting this No Fly lists etc. even more with stuff like "how many bonus miles do you have" or "do you travel with someone else" etc.
http://euobserver.com/9/22590
Also, the information on passengers will be available to more US counter-terrorism agencies, as a result of the revised deal. But EU justice commissioner Franco Frattini said that their access to EU data would not be unconditional.

Part of the EU-US agreement on the transfer of air data are a number of privacy protection safeguards that Washington has said it will respect.

Some deputies in the European Parliament are expected to criticise the deal, with green MEP Cem Ozdemir commenting "It is disturbing that the EU capitulated to US demands to allow more agencies access the data."

The deal - hammered out after a 9-hour videoconference between the US and EU officials last night and supported by EU member states - comes one week after the official deadline set by the European Court of Justice in May.

The court had ruled the previous air data agreement illegal, with European airlines left in a legal limbo after the two negotiating parties missed the end of September deadline the judges had set for its revision.


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