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more on 60 Minutes gets its hands on the no-fly list
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 18:10:36 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Jeff Jonas <jeffjonas () us ibm com> Date: October 6, 2006 5:33:33 PM EDT To: dave () farber net Cc: ip () v2 listbox com Subject: Re: [IP] 60 Minutes gets its hands on the no-fly list Dave,Paul Rosenzweig and I published a Heritage Foundation paper last year that discusses both this problem (wrongly matched) as well as redress considerations for those wrongly named. We suggested solving the false positive problem (every Gary Smith getting infringed) in a many that does not necessitate public records and/or large data aggregations.
Some of your IP subscribers may find this useful. Correcting False Positives: Redress and the Watch List Conundrum by Paul Rosenzweig and Jeff Jonas http://www.heritage.org/Research/HomelandDefense/lm17.cfm Jeff Jonas Distinguished Engineer and Chief Scientist IBM Entity Analytics 702.851.4697 JeffJonas () us ibm com My blog: www.jeffjonas.typepad.com ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as lists-ip () insecure org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
David Farber <dave () farber net> 10/06/2006 01:45 PM Please respond to dave () farber net To ip () v2 listbox com cc Subject [IP] 60 Minutes gets its hands on the no-fly list Begin forwarded message: From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org> Date: October 6, 2006 3:32:17 PM EDT To: David Farber <dave () farber net> Subject: 60 Minutes gets its hands on the no-fly list Unlikely Terrorists On No-Fly ListSteve Kroft reports lists includes President of Bolivia,
dead 9/11 hijackershttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/05/60minutes/ main2066624.shtml
Excerpt:Gary Smith, John Williams and Robert Johnson are some of those names. Kroft talked to 12 people with the name Robert Johnson, all of whom are detained almost every time they fly. The detentions can include strip searches and long delays in their travels.
"Well, Robert Johnson will never get off the list," says Donna Bucella, who oversaw the creation of the list and has headed up the FBI's Terrorist Screening Center since 2003. She regrets the trouble they experience, but chalks it up to the price of security in the post-9/11 world. "They're going to be inconvenienced every time ... because they do have the name of a person who's a known or suspected terrorist," says Bucella.
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