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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 13:09:56 -0400



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From: Brett Glass <brett () lariat net>
Date: October 4, 2006 12:01:06 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net, ip () v2 listbox com
Subject: Re: [IP] Who's a Bandwidth Bandit? - The Checkout

Dave, for IP if you will.

As an ISP myself, I can confirm that Verizon does have a point: Most excessive use of bandwidth is caused by worms, viruses, "zombies," illegal downloading, and P2P (which not only uses an unusually large amount of bandwidth but also tries to take over the ISP's network on behalf of the purveyor of the P2P software). However, they are wrong if they presume that this is always the reason a customer uses lots of bandwidth. It's a convenient presumption to make, though, if you want to "fire" customers who take you up on an "all you can eat" offer and then proceed to eat more than you intended to serve them.

The real problem is that many consumers are unwilling to pay for the network capacity they use.

There's no way for an ISP to make money on a $27.99 per month connection if the customer is using the equivalent of a T1 line (which costs more than 10 times as much as that, even wholesale). Yet, when the customer IS using the connection, he or she expects Web pages -- even those which are bloated with unnecessary, bandwidth hogging graphics and ads -- to come up in a flash. He or she wants to see video instantly and do instant uploads and downloads.... Instant gratification. We also have several customers who are addicted to social networking sites such as MySpace, which constantly refresh graphics-laden pages and hog huge amounts of bandwidth. Perhaps the worst is ESPN, which wastes huge amounts of bandwidth with constant page reloads. Consumers do not complain to these sites about this (though they should), because they don't realize that just sitting on a page can hog most or all of their bandwidth.

In any case, when consumers expect to get your product at retail for less than it costs wholesale, no business model will work except one that involves predatory pricing or cross-subsidization. (This is why the telcos and cable companies are so into "triple play" and "quadruple play" deals which produce monthly bills of $100 or more per customer. They can hide the true cost of the Internet component of the package, or cut corners on the other services in the bundle.) But our ISP -- being a pure play ISP -- doesn't have the option of playing those games.

What we do, instead, is something that seems to be contrary to the very nature of the large corporations with which we compete: We're open and honest. We specify a cap on sustained bandwidth that kicks in within a minute. The user's connection can go to much higher speeds in short bursts (good for Web pages), but after a minute it normalizes to the throughput we specify.

The result is that folks who browse the Web tend to really, really like our service. So do people who do a reasonable amount of downloading. And most folks understand that we cannot provide them with infinite throughput. But some do occasionally call to complain that the service is "slow."

Some of these people are rabid P2Pers, but not all are. We recently hooked up an office full of surveyors who trooped back from the field and tried to upload hundreds of megabytes of results -- ALL AT THE SAME TIME. They would not go on to other work, or quit for the day, until the upload was complete. Since they insisted upon working this way instead of staggering their uploads or allowing them to run whilst they went off and did other things, they had no choice but to buy more bandwidth. Which was only fair; we had to buy that bandwidth at wholesale and shouldn't be expected to provide services below our cost.

In any event, when we receive a complaint about speed, we check to see if there's an obvious bandwidth hog on the connection (e.g. a browser sitting on ESPN and using up all of their allocated bandwidth). We then tell the user to run any of the third party speed tests available on the Net (we don't want just to refer them to our own, because they might think we have our thumb on the scale). Unless there's something wrong with the connection, the number comes up just where we said it would; in other words, we're delivering the exact amount of sustained bandwidth that we specified in LARGE PRINT when they signed up. If they don't want to pay more for more capacity... well, we hate to lose a customer, but we would rather have such a user hog a competitor's network than ours.

We do have an anti-abuse policy, but will only cut off a user in response to DEMONSTRATED abuse, illegal activity, or an uncontrollable "zombie" or "bot".

--Brett Glass, LARIAT.NET



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