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more on now talking about cellular ripoff
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:04:41 -0500
Begin forwarded message: From: Brad Templeton <btm () templetons com> Date: November 29, 2006 5:20:13 PM EST To: David Farber <dave () farber net> Cc: ip () v2 listbox com Subject: Re: [IP] now talking about cellular ripoff On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 07:37:32PM -0500, David Farber wrote:
Say I am in Tokyo and someone rings my 1412 cell number in the USA. My cell phone rings and I see it is not an important call so I either reject it or don't answer. Still I get billed $1.99 for a 1 minute call UNLESS I power off my phone. Thats T-mobile. RIP OFF
Dave, almost all international cellular stuff is a rip off. Because you don't have a choice of carrier, you get old monopoly thinking. When I visit a country for more than a very short time, I buy a local SIM card for my unlocked phone and get a local number and get local, competative(*) prices. The wise thing is to not give out your mobile number and tell people to call a modern, internet controlled number which you forward to whatever purpose you like. Including forwarding to the number of your current local SIM, possibly with a brief time-zone warning to the caller -- "I'm travelling and the time where I am is now 1 AM and I am probably asleep. Press 1 to ring me." Such forwarding tends to cost 1-2 cents/minute to landlines. (With more work or a nice UI you could even have it forward to your hotel while in it to avoid high cellular rates if you don't have a local SIM. Or use a VoIP service with softphone and the calls would come to your laptop when it's on, to your cell when it's not. Or try the company trufone which makes calls come to your Nokia E91 over Wifi when it is connected to that, regular cell when not.) In the reverse, there are companies springing up to arbitrage the high long international distance prices all carriers charge. One called jajah.com lets you use a bank of local numbers (which you put in speed dials) to call your international friends, at tiny VoIP rates instead of $1/minute cell rates. Costs $1/week when you use it. Since I have a VoIP phone with Asterisk, I have given myself a toll free number which only costs 2 cents/minute when I or others call it. If you call it you reach me. If I call it from my cell phone, I can speed-dial my friends or get an outgoing dial-tone to call anywhere in the world -- requires a pass number because caller-id can be spoofed -- at the penny/minute rates real people pay for long distance. The walls are coming down in the pricing of telephony, as they should. Thanks to the internet, once again.(*Except in one area. Much of the world uses a "caller pays for airtime"
pricing model instead of the Usa/Canada/few others "cell phone owner pays for airtime" model. Many Europeans love their model, incorrectly dubbed 'free incoming calls' but in fact it's highly destructive because the caller paying the fee has no role in negotiating it, meaning no competition, meaning it stays obscenely high. It also makes number portability, an important competitive function, impossible. But that's another thread, see my blog for arguments about the controversial topic of which billing regime is better.) ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as lists-ip () insecure org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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