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more on Inaccurate reporting in "Gone in 60 seconds"


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 13:09:33 -0400



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From: Tom Gray <tom_gray_grc () yahoo com>
Date: May 8, 2006 12:28:13 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] more on Inaccurate reporting in "Gone in 60 seconds"

 Prof Farber:

For your IP lsit if you deem it suitable:

Contrary to what was stated below, RFID devices can be
and are active transponders. Such a RFID device is
called "Cricket" and is used as a location device for
tracking goods on productiuon lines, people for
location-based telephone servcies etc.

Tom Gray



--- David Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:



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From: "Synthesis: Law and Technology"
<synthesis.law.and.technology () gmail com>
Date: May 8, 2006 11:26:55 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: jspira () basex com
Subject: Re: [IP] Inaccurate reporting in "Gone in
60 seconds"

Dave,

It goes deeper than what Jonathan reported.  keyless
remotes and
immobilizers are not RFID devices at all.  They are
broadcast
devices, not passive.  They dont sit there waiting
to be 'read'.  I
wonder at the rest of the article, but given what we
already know to
be inaccurate it seems pointless to check further


Dan

On 5/7/06, David Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:

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From: Jonathan B Spira <jspira () basex com >
Date: May 6, 2006 10:06:32 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Inaccurate reporting in "Gone in 60
seconds"


Dave

Fact checking certainly was out to lunch on this.

The article conflates a bunch of facts and errors so
it is hard to
assess how real the danger is.

For starters, BMW doesn't make an S5 - Beckham had
two X5s stolen
from him.  That would normally be a minor detail
except for the fact
that the X5 doesn't come with Comfort Access (n.b.
BMW's new 3er,
5er, 6er, and 7er all have the Comfort Access
keyless system) - even
though the story positions the Beckham thefts as if
they were due to
Comfort Access.

I saw a similar article  on leftlanenews.com days
ago - also citing
the X5 thefts as if they were due to Comfort Access
- so it sounds as
if this is just going to make the rounds despite
faulty reporting.

Regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Szívélyes
üdvözlet/Cordialement/
Cordiali saluti/Saludos/Vänliga hälsningar

/s/ Jonathan
Jonathan B. Spira
CEO and Chief Analyst
Basex, Inc.
y jspira () basex com
( +1 (212) 725-2600 x113
8 http://www.basex.com



David Farber <dave () farber net>
06.05.06 19:30
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[IP] : Gone in 60 seconds--the high-tech version







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From: Glenn Tenney CISSM CISM
<gt_IP060107 () think org>
Date: May 6, 2006 7:14:23 PM EDT
To: Dave Farber < dave () farber net>
Subject: Gone in 60 seconds--the high-tech version

( for IP if you wish )


http://news.com.com/Gone+in+60+seconds-the+high-tech+version/
2100-7349_3-6069287.html

Gone in 60 seconds--the high-tech version

By Robert Vamosi
Story last modified Sat May 06 06:00:03 PDT 2006
<SNIP>
Real-world examples
Meet Radko Soucek, a 32-year-old car thief from the
Czech Republic. He's
alleged to have stolen several expensive cars in and
around Prague using
a laptop and a reader. Soucek is not new to auto
theft--he has been
stealing cars since he was 11 years old. But he
recently turned
high-tech when he realized how easily it could be
done.

Ironically, what led to his downfall was his own
laptop, which held
evidence of all his past encryption attempts. With a
database of
successful encryption strings already stored on his
hard drive, he had
the ability to crack cars he'd never seen before in
a relatively short
amount of time.

And Soucek isn't an isolated example. Recently,
soccer player David
Beckham had not one, but two, antitheft-engineered
BMW S5 SUVs stolen.
The most recent theft occurred in Madrid, Spain.
Police believe an auto
theft gang using software instead of hardware
pinched both of Beckham's
BMWs.
<SNIP>


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