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more on EU to tax e-mail, text messages?
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 11:04:10 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Matthew Stibbe <matthew () stibbe net> Date: May 30, 2006 10:25:49 AM EDT To: dave () farber net Subject: RE: [IP] more on EU to tax e-mail, text messages? For IP if you like. "EU to tax e-mail, text messages" seems like a bit of a canard to me. The European Union doesn't have any tax-raising powers. These are explicitly reserved to member states. Just because a member of the European Parliament (which sounds powerful and important but isn't) says it might be a good idea doesn't mean it's possible, never mind likely. If the EU started taxing citizens directly there would be a revolution and many countries would simply leave. We Europeans love our cell phones more than we love the EU. However, an EU institution did make an decision today which IP'ers might be interested in. According to the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5028918.stm) the European Court of Justice (which is powerful and important - think Supreme Court) has ruled that an agreement between the EU and US over the transfer of airline passenger data to the US intelligence services did not guarantee adequate levels of data protection and has blocked it, giving the EU until the end of September to find another approach. Matthew Stibbe Writer in chief Articulate Marketing www.articulatemarketing.com 020 7193 7105 PS Check out my new blogs: www.badlanguage.net and www.modernpilot.com. -----Original Message----- From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net] Sent: 30 May 2006 15:06 To: ip () v2 listbox com Subject: [IP] more on EU to tax e-mail, text messages? Begin forwarded message: From: John Levine <johnl () iecc com> Date: May 30, 2006 12:37:35 AM EDT To: dave () farber net Cc: lauren () vortex com Subject: Re: [IP] more on EU to tax e-mail, text messages?
Taxing text/SMS messages may be somewhat practical, but trying to do the same with e-mail will open a Pandora's box of problems.
Agreed. Taxing SMS is easy since they're already metered (at least in Europe where they're charged to the sender.) Taxing email or any other per-message e-mail charge is fundamentally impratical because the cost of building the infrastructure to collect the charges would cost far more than the revenue to be collected. And as Lauren noted, since e-mail has no security at all, there'd be a vast array of scams to charge the tax other than the actual sender. I have a well-known white paper on e-postage on my web site at http://www.taugh.com that lays out the problems that doom e-postage in more detail. Regards, John Levine, johnl () iecc com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, Mayor "More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly. ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as matthew () stibbe net To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as lists-ip () insecure org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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