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[Dave Farber <dave () farber net>]

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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 10:13:31 -0500
From: jonathan () pobox com
To: dave () farber net

Dave,

It's interesting to see the continuing reaction from the political left to
the fact that people of faith have finally organized themselves around
their values.  Why shouldn't Alito thank the people who stood by him?  He
didn't say, "and by the way, I'm planning to vote against Roe V. Wade
tomorrow afternoon as a thank you to you for sending me here."  He said,
thanks for praying for me and standing by me.  Where I come from, that's
called being polite.  When your friends stand by you, you thank them.

Looking for a right-wing consipracy under every thank you note and mocking
people of faith (the SNL quote at the bottom of the sender's e-mail) has
largely gotten the left where it is today - marginalized, losing elections
all over the country and left only to scream shrilly about the American
Taliban.

Good people all over America see that sort of carping for what it really
is - sore-loserism from a group that appears to have no cohesive national
agenda other than to call most people on the right Nazis, to hope (not
even silently, but publicly) for failure in Iraq and to repeat the Howard
Dean scream every time George Bush's name is mentioned.

Not a very compelling vision for a national party...

--
Jonathan Goldstein, Esq.
c: 215-266-5948



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Subject: The Constitution doesn't actually SAY "Separation of Church and
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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 22:48:11 -0500
From: Randall <rvh40 () insightbb com>
To: JMG <johnmacsgroup () yahoogroups com>, Dave <dave () farber net>

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To Dobson, With Love, Sam Scalito ...
Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 10:45 PM EST
Alito Sends James Dobson a Valentine
HuffingtonPost.com

During his broadcast today, Focus on the Family founder and president
James Dobson promoted his organization's annual ex-gay conference, Love
Won Out, in which gays and their families are told that homosexuality is
"preventable and treatable." Then, he presented evidence that "the
pendulum is swinging back," informing his listeners that he had just
received a thank you note from new Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito.

Dobson praised his listeners for helping to seat John Roberts and Alito
in time for a partial-birth abortion case ("in this case, [your
activism] absolutely affected history," he told his audience).

Not only is it unprecedented for a Supreme Court justice to send a thank
you note to an interest group, it is highly unethical. Alito has
admitted that he owes his job to a man who told his listeners today to
"please be in prayer that by the time that probition on abortion reaches
the Supreme Court, there will be one more conservative justice sitting
there." From now on, plaintiffs and defendants in cases dealing with
issues from abortion to gay rights to school prayer should demand that
Alito recuse himself. Alito is deeply embedded in the pocket of the
Christian right and perhaps
more compromised than anyone could have imagined.

Here is the text of Alito's letter to Dobson, which Dobson read on air:

Dear Dr. Dobson:

This is just a short note to express my heartfelt thanks to you and the
entire staff of Focus on the Family for your help and support during the
past few challenging months.

I would also greatly appreciate it if you would convey my appreciation
to the good people from all parts of the country who wrote to tell me
that they were praying for me and for my family during this period.

As I said when I spoke at my formal investiture at the White House last
week, the prayers of so many people from around the country were a
palpable and powerful force.

As long as I serve on the Supreme Court I will keep in mind the trust
that has been placed in me.

I hope that we'll have the opportunity to meet personally at some point
in the future.

In the meantime my entire family and I hope that you and the Focus on
the Family staff know how we appreciate all that you have done.


Sincerely yours,

Samuel Alito
-- 
"The people who still support George Bush are the same people who
believe Adam and Eve rode to church on the backs of dinosaurs". -  SNL



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