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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:09:09 -0500



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From: Joel M Snyder <Joel.Snyder () Opus1 COM>
Date: March 28, 2006 1:38:48 PM EST
To: dave () farber net
Cc: ip () v2 listbox com, stevenstevensteven () gmail com
Subject: Re: [IP] more on You mean postings to MySpace aren't private? Who knew?

The First Amendment reads:

"Congress shall make no law ..."

A private school is not making laws, and if it is truly private, then it operates entirely within the law---but with whatever policies it wants. There is no law that says "A minor has the right to free speech." There is only a Constitutional amendment that says "Congress [and, by extension, the states] cannot make laws which abridge freedom of speech."

A private entity can do whatever it wants, because people have the option to participate or not. If you don't like the policy of the private school you send your child do (like "must wear adorable plaid uniform and tie every day") then you are free to change to another school.

Private entities can do whatever they want, as long as they break no laws. There are golf clubs in Georgia that were in the news recently that do not admit women. As they are private, that's their prerogative. A mosque could refuse to admit women who are not wearing chador. A Mormon Temple won't admit you at all to certain ceremonies and parts of the building if you're not Mormon.

There is no unalienable right to free speech. The unalienable rights are to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, if you want to kepe your terms together.

In fact, if you read the Constitution carefully, you'll also discover that there is no "right to privacy" (although Griswolf v. Connecticut, in 1965, is where such "penumbras and emanations" were found to emanate from the Bill of Rights by Justice Douglas, giving us the right to use contraceptives).

jms

David Farber wrote:
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From: Steven Hertzberg <stevenstevensteven () gmail com>
Date: March 28, 2006 1:15:37 PM EST
To: dave () farber net, ip () v2 listbox com
Subject: RE: [IP] You mean postings to MySpace aren't private? Who knew? "Private schools, however, are not bound by the First Amendment right to
free speech"
What about the statement above am I not understanding? Can someone please explain to me how a school, private or otherwise, can penalize someone for
exercising their unalienable right to free speech.
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Steven Hertzberg
http://www.hertzberg.org
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