might this FINALLY be the first step to deterring off-shoring?!]

[Dave Farber <dave () farber net>]

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Subject: RE: [IP] might this FINALLY be the first step to deterring
off-shoring?!
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:13:14 -0500
From: Atkinson, Robert <rca53 () columbia edu>
To: jwarren () well com
CC: dave () farber net

Jim:

If your hope is that lawyers/law-makers will support laws to discourage
off shoring because THEIR jobs/potential jobs are at risk, you will be
disappointed.

Law firms and lawyers like these off-shore services. Many US law firms
already use them for basic research, filling out forms, indexing
documents for litigation, etc. Offshoring of these functions doesn't
threaten US lawyers: rather, it frees them to deal with clients, appear
in court, negotiate deals...all the face-to-face functions that can't be
out-sourced. There is also the potential that American clients will get
better legal service at lower costs.

That said, these offshore services are a threat to some clerical and
paralegal jobs in the US. But it is likely that American clerks and
paralegals--rather than $350-$400/hour lawyers--will supervise the
off-shore workers, so while there will be fewer US positions, those
positions will have more responsibility and hopefully higher wages.

Finally, off-shoring back office functions will allow small firms and
solo practioners who can't afford large clerical/paralegal staffs to
compete with larger firms. Clients may be billed for these services at
the $120/hour rate noted in the post, so the "back office" becomes a
good profit center and may keep small firms afloat. Or, clients will pay
less or get more research for the same fee...good for the small
litigant, individual clients.

Bob

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From: Dave Farber [mailto:dave () farber net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:02 PM
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Subject: [IP] might this FINALLY be the first step to deterring
off-shoring?!



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: might this FINALLY be the first step to deterring off-shoring?!
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:30:17 -0800
From: Jim Warren <jwarren () well com>
To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
References: <200603011401.k21E12QW027359 () smtp well com>

Many of us have snarled (or whined) about the off-shoring of American
jobs by "American" conglomerates.  ("Off-shoring" is more accurate
than the too-polite, intentionally-ambiguous "outsourcing"!)

At first, off-shoring "only" impacted low-income (i.e., politically
helpless) workers.  But as we all know, it's now rapidly and
increasingly impacting Americans in white-collar, professional,
engineering and technical positions.

Nothing so far, has slowed that outflow of jobs -- be they
poor-paying or good.  But, perhaps the following "threat" MIGHT soon
"encourage" some changes!

It's excerpted SPAM, captioned "Outsourcing of your Legal
Requirements."  Although they're offering back-room services for
lawyers, it seems like they could  equally be offering many up-front
legal services!

I mean ... geee ... why should the lawyers for those "American"
conglomerates (including most would-be politicians) be exempted from
the opportunity to face $15/hour competition ... so they, too, can
seek employment at a local McDonalds?

[Note the comment about "cutting your current costs to at least
one-eighth".  I.e., the back-room services they're offering are
presumably billed-out to American lawyers' clients at $120/hour or
more!]

--jim


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