more on DHS to have a Faith-Based Center ?!?

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [IP] more on DHS to have a Faith-Based Center ?!?
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 10:26:48 -0800
From: Henrik Brameus <blondino () gmail com>
To: dave () farber net
References: <44106F55.6030904 () farber net>

Dave,

Once again a common misconception creeps to the surface. The red cross
was started by a Swiss national who just inverted the Swiss flag
(white cross on red background). It has never been faith-based.

To relate to the original thread, wouldn't it be better to create the
DHS department to deal with volontary releif services, rather than
just focusing on faith-based ones. Or is it that faith-based ones need
much more help to be efficient?

Henrik

On 09/03/06, David Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [IP] more on DHS to have a Faith-Based Center ?!?
> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:10:45 -0500
> From: Richard Wiggins <richard.wiggins () gmail com>
> To: dave () farber net
> CC: ip () v2 listbox com
> References: <4410501E.3030408 () farber net>
>
> Are folks assuming that this is necessarily bad?  The Salvation Army
> and Catholic Relief Services are faith-based services, and though the
> Red Cross is essentially secular now, think about the origin of its
> name.
>
> Part of disaster preparedness is, well, preparedness.  You set up
> lines of communication and do disaster response planning with all
> sorts of relief and social service agencies, whether faith-based or
> not.
>
> The question is whether the purpose of this initiative is indeed
> preparedness, or instead if it is pandering to religious
> constituencies. Given the label, and given this Administration, people
> are right to be suspicious.   As a test, will the DHS faith-based
> program embrace Islamic social service organizations?
>
> /rich
>
> On 3/9/06, David Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: RE: [IP] DHS to have a Faith-Based Center ?!?
> > Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 07:40:57 -0800
> > From: Brock Meeks <Brock.Meeks () msnbc com>
> > To: dave () farber net, rforno () infowarrior org
> >
> > Answer: yes.
> >
> > Official press release from DHS, dated March 8, 2006:
> >
> > Statement by HOMELAND SECURITY Secretary Michael Chertoff ON THE
> > CREATION OF A CENTER FOR FAITH-BASED AND COMMUNITY INITIATIVES [Emphasis
> > in the original]
> >
> > "President Bush has signed an Executive Order that directs the
> > Department of Homeland Security to establish a Center for Faith-Based
> > and Community Initiatives to advance our overall mission and strengthen
> > the department's preparedness efforts. This Center will be a part of the
> > Preparedness Directorate and it will help to advance several core
> > elements of the department's mission, in particular building a culture
> > of preparedness in every community across America.
> >
> > "As directed by the President, the Center will conduct a department-wide
> > audit to identify barriers to faith-based and other community
> > organizations' participation in our programs and activities, and propose
> > ways to remove these barriers and to better integrate the community into
> > our efforts.  As a result, the department will more effectively channel
> > the unique resources and capabilities of faith-based and other community
> > organizations in times of crisis, and on an ongoing basis, in preparing
> > for catastrophes of all types.
> >
> >  "Faith-based and community organizations played an instrumental role in
> > response to Hurricane Katrina and they continue to be an essential
> > partner in helping victims in the Gulf States region rebuild their lives
> > and communities.  I commend their service and look forward to building
> > upon several long-standing relationships, as well as forging new ones,
> > through the department's new Center for Faith-Based and Community
> > Initiatives. "
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 10:02
> > To: ip () v2 listbox com
> > Subject: [IP] DHS to have a Faith-Based Center ?!?
> >
> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: DHS to have a Faith-Based Center ?!?
> > Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:53:32 -0500
> > From: Richard Forno <rforno () infowarrior org>
> > To: Infowarrior List <infowarrior () attrition org>
> > CC: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
> >
> > Executive Order 13397--Responsibilities of the Department of Homeland
> > Security With Respect to Faith-Based and Community Initiatives
> >
> > http://cryptome.org/eo13397.htm
> >
> > >      Section 1. Establishment of a Center for Faith-Based
> > >                 and Community Initiatives at the Department of
> > Homeland
> > >                 Security.
> > >
> > >                     (a) The Secretary of Homeland Security (Secretary)
> > >                 shall establish within the Department of Homeland
> > >                 Security (Department) a Center for Faith-Based and
> > >                 Community Initiatives (Center).
> > >                     (b) The Center shall be supervised by a Director
> > >                 appointed by Secretary. The Secretary shall consult
> > >                 with the Director of the White House Office of Faith-
> > >                 Based and Community Initiatives (WHOFBCI Director)
> > >                 prior to making such appointment.
> > >                     (c) The Department shall provide the Center with
> > >                 appropriate staff, administrative support, and other
> > >                 resources to meet its responsibilities under this
> > >                 order.
> > >                     (d) The Center shall begin operations no later
> > than
> > >                 45 days from the date of this order.
> >
> >
> > Section 3 (not shown above) is traditional bureaucratic doublespeak --
> > it
> > creates and staffs an office....but then charges it with finding ways to
> > reduce bureaucracy, rules, redtape, and streamline operations.
> >
> > http://cryptome.org/eo13397.htm
> >
> >
> >
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