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[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [IP] Another amazing internet patent
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 12:06:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Gray <tom_gray_grc () yahoo com>
To: dave () farber net, tom_gray_grc () yahoo com

Prof Farber

- for your IP list is you think it suitable

Tom Gray

as I expected teh account of the patent given in the
original message was incomplete. The patent is not
about "send[ing] an email confirming an electronic
transaction". The pertinent portion of the patent
description is:

"When a consumer has to confirm an authorization of an
electronic transaction (e.g., "online" purchase order
via credit card, or signing a contract, etc.), the
entity requesting such authorization (e.g., merchant,
credit card company, etc.) will leave a "notification
message" (e.g., voice mail or e-mail) at a
predetermined, private electronic mailbox associated
with the consumer. The location of the private mailbox
is not communicated by the consumer to the merchant or
bank during an electronic transaction. Instead, the
merchant or bank will contact an e-Notary based on
information provided by the consumer (e.g., IP address
of the e-Notary, etc.)"

So the patent is not about the common practice of
having a consumer send an Email to confirm a Email
list subscription etc. IN this case the Email is not
provided in the transaction but is provided by a
trusted thrid party.

This application is about verifying identity in a way
suitbale for a finnacial transaction. It is a
different issue than the one described in teh original
cvomment and done in a different way.

So a patent that describes a different issue done in a
different way is objected to because it bears a
superficial similarity to some practice.

Tom Gray

So

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [CYBERIA] Another amazing internet patent
> >
> Don't send an email confirming an electronic
> transaction -- that's now
> patented.  How does this stuff get through?

> ALEXANDRIA, Va., Feb. 28 -- Stephane H. Maes of
> Danbury, Conn., has
> developed systems and methods for confirming
> electronic transactions.
>
> According to the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office, the
> invention relates to
> "systems and methods for providing user-confirmation
> of an electronic
> transaction and in particular, protocols for
> enabling electronic
> signatures and confirmation of electronic documents
> and transactions such
> as electronic financial transactions and credit card
> payment."
>
> An abstract of the invention, released by the Patent
> Office, said: "In one
> aspect, a method for confirming an electronic
> transaction, comprises the
> steps of: performing an electronic transaction
> between a first party and a
> second party; sending, by the second party, a
> request for confirmation of
> the electronic transaction to a predetermined,
> private mailbox associated
> with the first party; accessing the private mailbox
> by the first party;
> and sending, by the first party, a reply message to
> the request for
> confirmation to thereby confirm authorization of the
> electronic
> transaction."
>
> The inventor was issued U.S. Patent No. 7,003,497 on
> Feb. 21.
>
> The patent has been assigned to International
> Business Machines Corp.,
> Armonk, N.Y.
>
> The original application was filed on Dec. 31, 2001,
> and is available
> at:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=/netahtml/search-adv.htm&r=302&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&s1=ISYMD-20060221&p=7&OS=ISD/02/21/2006&RS=ISD/02/21/2006.
>
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