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Microsoft responds re innocent users and Windows Genuine Advantage
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:02:52 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com> Date: June 15, 2006 4:50:02 PM EDT To: dave () farber net Cc: lauren () vortex comSubject: Microsoft responds re innocent users and Windows Genuine Advantage
Dave, The Microsoft program director for Windows Genunine Advantage (WGA) -- whom I spoke to originally -- has responded to my questions regarding impacts of WGA validation checks on innocent users that I noted in: http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000181.html To summarize his response (in my words): - MS is aware that repair depots and stores have had a habit of re-installing Windows (e.g., from cloned systems) in ways that could result in WGA validation failures. - MS realizes that being told that a system is failing WGA checks for no obvious reason can be extremely frustrating to an innocent victim. - He says that MS has been warning distributers, resellers, etc. about this issue for years, and urges them to use appropriate software tools when fixing/configuring customer machines to avoid creating invalid OS copies that will fail WGA validation -- but MS knows that this is still definitely a problem. - He urges customers who have been "victimized" by such actions that cause WGA failures to go back to the dealer (or whomever) to request a proper installation, using the original activation keys whenever possible. - In the event that the dealer, etc. won't help or can't help, he suggests: 1) Turning off WGA notification warnings via the system tray applet -- so at least that won't keep bugging them... then: 2) Phone MS support via whatever numbers are provided for the user's area. He says that the support people (he notes that phone banks have been beefed up to handle more calls) have a variety of tools that can be used to swap and/or override keys to get around a variety of related WGA issues. - - - So it appears that Microsoft does have mechanisms in place to deal with at least some of these issues in typical contexts, assuming people aren't so flustered that they realize what is actually going on and what steps are available. Of course, none of this addresses the key issues in general of users vs. vendor control and licensing rights monitoring, ownership vs. effectively the "rental" of software, and a range of other questions, including one of the perhaps most fundamental of all: Aren't these kinds of situations starting to get far too complicated and unnecessarily complex for consumer products on which people now depend for so many aspects of their lives? --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren () vortex com or lauren () pfir org Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 http://www.pfir.org/lauren Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Co-Founder, IOIC - International Open Internet Coalition - http://www.ioic.net Moderator, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com DayThink: http://daythink.vortex.com ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as lists-ip () insecure org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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