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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 09:55:29 -0400

might work against corp who do business in Cal

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From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com>
Date: July 14, 2006 9:52:23 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: lauren () vortex com
Subject: Re: [IP] California Supreme court prohibits recording Californians without their consent - regardless of where you are.


Dave,

My "I'm not a lawyer" analysis of this ruling suggests that its
enforceability may be problematic against entities who do not have a
physical nexus here in California.  It's this state by state
variation in 1-party vs. multiple-party laws on recording that has
made the interstate situation so complicated, and it's not clear
that anything short of changes at the federal level will be able to
harmonize these laws.  Obviously, I'd prefer to see all states
forced to abide by the multiple-party (all-party) standard, since
the current situation is utterly loophole-ridden.


--Lauren--
Lauren Weinstein
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From: Ethan Ackerman <eackerma () u washington edu>
Date: July 13, 2006 3:35:59 PM EDT
To: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Subject: California Supreme court prohibits recording Californians
without their consent - regardless of where you are.

Greetings Dave,
Many people, especially reporters, are familiar with state laws
prohibiting phone conversations from being recorded without the
consent of one or both parties to the call.  Some states, and federal
law, require only 1 party to consent, other states require both or all
parties to consent.  California is one such 'all-party' consent state.
(Think Linda Tripp recording Monica Lewinsky talking about her boss,
or the floridian couple recording Newt Gingrich coordinating his
ethics probe with John Boehner, as past examples of this distinction.)

Well today, the California Supreme Court found that Georgia-based
employees of the Solomon Smith Barney brokerage who were taping
California customers with out notice or consent violated California
laws, even if they might have been complying with Georgia's '1 party'
consernt laws.

While the court refused to fine the brokers, finding their reliance on
Georgia law reasonable, it did enjoin them from taping Californians in
the future.
Case is here:
http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/documents/S124739.PDF

This decision will likely have a large impact on investigative
reporting, and has definite impacts on other areas of privacy and
consumer protection law as well.


-Ethan


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