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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:55:46 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Paul Levy <plevy () citizen org> Date: July 25, 2006 12:31:39 PM EDT To: dave () farber net, ip () v2 listbox com Subject: Re: [IP] more on Private High School Sues WikipediaOne might wonder whether the posting, although certainly mean, is actionable as libel. The negative statements cited in the article are highly rhetorical which is a hallmark of nonactionable opinion, rather than actionable statements of fact. Tuition is"ridiculously high"; education is "awful"; too much attention to sports; and students are "complete idiots."
In that regard, one of my colleagues noted that Skutt HS actually has a trapshooting team among its athletic options. http:// www.geocities.com/skyhawktrap/
Paul Alan Levy Public Citizen Litigation Group 1600 - 20th Street, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20009 (202) 588-1000 http://www.citizen.org/litigation
David Farber <dave () farber net> 7/25/2006 11:01 AM >>>
Begin forwarded message: From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joehall () gmail com> Date: July 25, 2006 10:42:43 AM EDT To: Mike Masnick <mike () techdirt com> Cc: dave () farber net, Michael Geist <mgeist () pobox com> Subject: Re: [IP] Private High School Sues Wikipedia Reply-To: joehall () pobox com On 7/25/06, Mike Masnick <mike () techdirt com> wrote:
At 01:50 PM 7/24/2006 -0400, you wrote:Begin forwarded message: From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joehall () gmail com> Date: July 24, 2006 1:38:18 PM EDT To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net> Subject: Private High School Sues Wikipedia Reply-To: joehall () pobox com (From Michael Geist's ILN) NEBRASKA SCHOOL SUES WIKIPEDIA OVER POSTINGThe headline is false. While the original article linked to in the email has disappeared, when it was up, it never said that the school sued Wikipedia. Instead, it sued the anonymous John and Jane Doe who made edits to the Wikipedia page. In other words, they sued those who made the statements, not Wikipedia itself. It's an important distinction.
That's a very good point... I'll CC Michael Geist on this (who presumably wrote the headline). The text of the article is copied below. -Joe
Of course, that doesn't mean the lawsuit is necessarily a smart move. In my own discussion of it, I present some thoughts on why they would have been much better off simply removing the vandalism and keeping quiet about it: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060724/0348214.shtml Mike
Hi Dave, it appears that the link above is no longer working. Here's the story: Catholic high school sues over Wikipedia posting OMAHA Neb. (The Associated Press State & Local Wire)-- Skutt Catholic High School has filed a lawsuit over an edit posting on Wikipedia, the online, publicly compiled encyclopedia. School administrators take a dim view of these and other lines about the school: "It's (sic) tuition is ridiculously high, too. Not to mention you get an awful education there. They put more emphasis on sports than they do education. No wonder almost all kids there are complete idiots." That opinion showed up in June on http://www.wikipedia.org. And Skutt officials say there have been three other objectionable entries since February. They include sharp criticism of Skutt principal Patrick Slattery, obscene language and a note about drug use by students. Since Wikipedia debuted in 2001, it has grown to 2 1/2 million entries in 10 languages. Thousands of changes are made every hour to Wikipedia items, and contributors are charged with editing themselves and others. All viewers need do to change an entry is click "edit this page" and do so. Skutt officials can't tell who posted the entries they've zeroed in on, so the Douglas County District Court suit names a John and Jane Doe. The Internet addresses belong to Cox Communications, and a spokeswoman said the company intends to comply with a subpoena for the names of the posters. Whether the Skutt lawsuit prevails is uncertain as the law sorts out the inherent conflict between free speech and damaging opinion in the usually anonymous realm of cyberspace. "The law is a mixed bag right now," said John Seigenthaler, a retired journalist and founder of the First Amendment Center at Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tenn. "I can understand how anybody feels pain, but it's still a very difficult row to hoe." Seigenthaler said it took months to get statements about him removed from a Wikipedia page. The Skutt lawsuit says it has suffered general damages that would be determined at trial. "These particular edits were really harmful and mean-spirited," said Patrick Flood, a lawyer for Skutt. Once Skutt officials find out who posted the entries and why, they will proceed accordingly, he said. Federal law protects online service providers. "They are just the vehicle" for other people's information, said Lucy Dalglish, executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press. "Basically, the more control you have (over the information), the more risk you have." On its site, Wikipedia tells users that "it is a valuable resource and provides a good reference point." But, it says, "unfamiliar information should be checked before relying upon it." Inappropriate comments sometimes are removed, said Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales in an e-mail interview with the Omaha World-Herald. He said such postings are rare, and wondered why Skutt officials hadn't contacted him. Attempts to reach Skutt officials and their lawyer Saturday were unsuccessful. (In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.) -- Joseph Lorenzo Hall PhD Student, UC Berkeley, School of Information <http://josephhall.org/> ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as PLEVY () citizen org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ipArchives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting- people/
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