Future American lawyers; "Ballsy and brave" to agree with your law prof?

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

cept the guys who protested were the student lawyers  not the secure  
faculty djf


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From: "Munro, Neil" <NMunro () nationaljournal com>
Date: January 25, 2006 3:16:50 PM EST
To: dave () farber net
Subject: RE: [IP] Future American lawyers; "Ballsy and brave" to  
agree with your law prof?


Regardless of who is right or wrong about wiretapping, do we not define
bravery down when we include speech that carries no risk of punishment,
and much prospect of applause from peers?
For an example of real bravery, read this;
http://www.washtimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20060125-123819-990
6r

I learn a lot from IP, but what I learn most are the views of the
secure, university-trained professionals who are on the list.

Neil



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From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:59 PM
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Subject: [IP] Future American lawyers to be proud of.



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From: "Robert J. Berger" <rberger () ibd com>
Date: January 25, 2006 2:16:45 PM EST
To: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com>, Dave Farber
<dave () farber net>
Subject: Future American lawyers to be proud of.

Future American lawyers to be proud of.
... and Alberto Gonzales.

http://insomnia.livejournal.com/652389.html?nc=2&style=mine
[A few good pictures on the website]

Alberto Gonzales spoke before law students at Georgetown today,
justifying illegal, unauthorized surveilance of US citizens, but
during the course of his speech the students in class did
something pretty ballsy and brave. They got up from their seats
and turned their backs to him.

To make matters worse for Gonzales, additional students came
into the room, wearing black cowls and carrying a simple banner,
written on a sheet.
[The good Ben Franklin quote: "Those who would sacrifice liberty
for security deserve neither"]

Fortunately for him, it was a brief speech... followed by a
panel discussion that basically ripped his argument a new
asshole.

And, as one of the people on the panel said,

"When you're a law student, they tell you if say that if you
can't argue the law, argue the facts. They also tell you if you
can't argue the facts, argue the law. If you can't argue either,
apparently, the solution is to go on a public relations
offensive and make it a political issue... to say over and over
again "it's lawful", and to think that the American people will
somehow come to believe this if we say it often enough.

In light of this, I'm proud of the very civil civil disobedience
that was shown here today."  - David Cole, Georgetown University
Law Professor

It was a good day for dissent.

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