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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:35:34 -0500
Begin forwarded message: From: Michael Bacarella <mbac () netgraft com> Date: January 25, 2006 12:12:32 PM EST To: David Farber <dave () farber net> Subject: Re: Fw: [IP] more on Could NY Times face a treason trial? On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 10:18:30AM -0500, Michael Bacarella wrote:
2) Lots of heat and little light on this issue. In particular, wedon't know what the folks at the NSA have actually been doing, and theyaren't going to say because it gives away methods and means. We canspeculate about it, but without knowing exactly, it seems questionableto assert that X *is* breaking the law or is *not* breaking the law. Paranoia about the NSA and dislike/like for George W. Bush are undoubtedly distorting the whole issue. I'd suggest taking a deep breath, and only making statements that we know are grounded in fact, if any additional statements need to be made at all.
I have yet to see anyone cut to the heart of this scandal and reveal the core issue the way security expert Bruce Schneier did more than a month ago.It's not about the NSA's cool secret gadgets, or about partisan politics,
or even directly about the 4th amendment. http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/12/the_security_th_1.html ``In defending this secret spying on Americans, Bush said that he relied on his constitutional powers (Article 2) and the joint resolution passed by Congress after 9/11 that led to the war in Iraq. This rationale was spelled out in a memo written by John Yoo, a White House attorney, less than two weeks after the attacks of 9/11. It's a dense read and a terrifying piece of legal contortionism, but it basically says that the president has unlimited powers to fight terrorism. He can spy on anyone, arrest anyone, and kidnap anyone and ship him to another country ... merely on the suspicion that he might be a terrorist. And according to the memo, this power lasts until there is no more terrorism in the world.'' ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as lists-ip () insecure org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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