Interesting People mailing list archives
more on Summarized -- The Internets, Not Just Bush's Word, His Fault
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:03:19 -0500
Begin forwarded message: From: John Scott <johnmscott () mindspring com> Date: January 19, 2006 1:55:39 PM EST To: dave () farber netSubject: RE: [IP] Summarized -- The Internets, Not Just Bush's Word, His Fault
Reply-To: johnmscott () mindspring comThe countries that have the most problem with the US running the system are also the ones who are trying to limit political discourse, etc. (China, Iran, etc.). Yes, the present Icann process can be improved - pinning the cause on the fact Icann backed
away from .xxx is a red herring.And if you do hand it over to an international body, you will end up with the UN Human rights commission with countries that don't support human rights. If right now they coerce MSN, Google, Yahoo!, etc. to filter, what other ways could they game an
international-Icann for their own uses.Where there is chaos comes opportunity, maybe fracturing parts of the internet is inevitable, opening up the space to new ideas may not be such a bad idea...
End of the day, countries with reasons to control their populations access to the internet will do what they want and there isn't anything, anyone in the US can do about it, except not buy their products, talk with them. Kinda sucks, but there
aren't many levers we can pull Js ------------------------------------------------------------------ John Scott < jms3rd () gmail com > http://powdermonkey.blogs.com Washington DC ph 240.401.6574 -----Original Message----- From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 1:18 PM To: ip () v2 listbox comSubject: [IP] Summarized -- The Internets, Not Just Bush's Word, His Fault
Endangered Domain In Threat to Internet's Clout, Some Are Starting Alternatives Rise of Developing Nations, Anti-U.S. Views Play Role; Pioneer Sounds the Alarm A 'Root' Grows in Germany By CHRISTOPHER RHOADS Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL January 19, 2006; Page A1More than a decade after the Internet became available for commercial use, other countries and organizations are erecting rivals to it -- raising fears that global
interconnectivity will be diminished. Summarized: China has created three suffixes in Chinese characters substituting for .com and the like, resulting in Web sites and email addresses inaccessible to users outside of China. ..."You've had some breakaway factions over the years, but they've had no relevance," says Rodney Joffe, the chairman of UltraDNS, a Brisbane, Calif., company that provides Internet equipment and services for companies. ...A single root helps ensure that when people type in a Web address such as www.amazon.com, they all end up at the site of the Internet retailer no matter where in the world they are or which Internet service provider they use. ...As the Internet's role grows around the world, some are uneasy with the notion that a U.S.-based body overseen by the U.S. government has sole power over what domain names are used and who controls each name. ...Concern about U.S. oversight increased last summer when the Commerce Department persuaded Icann to postpone the approval of a new domain-name suffix to be used for pornographic Web sites, .xxx. ...The matter of control came to a head last November at a United Nations summit in Tunis, where the U.S. delegation fought off demands from more than 170 countries to give up unilateral oversight of Icann. ...U.S. officials counter that the Internet is too valuable to tinker with or place under an international body like the U.N. "What's at risk is the bureaucratization of the Internet and innovation," says Michael Gallagher, the Department of Commerce official who administers the government's tie to Icann. ...Governments already control what their citizens see on the Internet by blocking some sites, making surfing a less-than-universal experience, notes Paul Mockapetris, who invented the Internet's domain-name system in the early 1980s. ...Powerful servers inside a locked, metal cage translate Internet domain names into a series of numbers, called Internet protocol addresses, helping users find Web sites and send and receive email. ...Mr. Vixie says he has no interest in making political statements but he agreed last September to work with Mr. Grundmann by operating one of ORSN's 13 mirrors. ...The company has established its own root and signed up Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport, among other companies, according to Erik Seeboldt, UnifiedRoot's managing director. ...China has created three domain names in Chinese characters-- .zhongguo, .gongsi and .wangluo -- and made them available for public and commercial use inside China only.
Similarly, Arab countries have in the past 18 months experimented with country code domain names in Arabic, distinct from the Icann system, says Khaled Fattal of Surrey, England. ...Paul Twomey, the chief executive officer of Icann, says the divisions reflect cultural differences between nations that operate under a strong government hand and those, including the U.S., that put more trust in the private sector. ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as johnmscott () mindspring com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ipArchives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting- people/
------------------------------------- You are subscribed as lists-ip () insecure org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
Current thread:
- more on Summarized -- The Internets, Not Just Bush's Word, His Fault David Farber (Jan 19)