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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 09:49:37 -0500



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From: Serge Egelman <serge () guanotronic com>
Date: January 9, 2006 9:46:05 AM EST
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] more on more on [I agree djf] an accurate description of this behavior is unprintable in polite company
Reply-To: serge () guanotronic com


For IP if you wish:


I have a blackberry 7100t from T-Mobile (and am using it to send this message while at a cafe in Lisbon). This was my first complaint (crippled Bluetooth, not being at a cafe in Lisbon). I spoke with T- Mobile about it and they insisted it was all RIM's doing and they had no control over the matter (they also said that it is a common complaint). I spoke to RIM and they admitted to it and said it's for "security purposes". They hinted that this may change in the future, but who knows.

Serge
Sent wirelessly via BlackBerry from T-Mobile.  Hence the typos.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 09:23:17
To:ip () v2 listbox com
Subject: [IP] more on more on [I agree djf] an accurate description of this behavior is unprintable in polite company



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From: Jordan Pollack <pollack () cs brandeis edu>
Date: January 8, 2006 11:33:09 PM EST
To: dave () farber net, bob () frankston com
Subject: Re: [IP] more on [I agree djf] an accurate description of
this behavior is unprintable in polite company

Its not only Microsoft. My Treo 300 simply collapsed before a trip,
and I was sold a Nextel Blackberry 7100i by Sprint store. Its a nice
phone, with GPS, and walkie-talkie to other Nextel's, but both the
USB modem and bluetooth modem have been lobotomized so it can't work
as an emergency modem like older IDEN phones or the 7100 from Tmobile
or Cingular. Of course I dont know whether Nextel, RIM, Sprint, or
collusion to minimize value of "unlimited" data  is to blame.



David Farber wrote:



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From: Bob Frankston <Bob2-19-0501 () bobf frankston com>
Date: January 8, 2006 6:32:07 PM EST
To: dave () farber net, ip () v2 listbox com
Cc: "'Mike O'Dell'" <mo () ccr org>
Subject: RE: [IP] [I agree djf] an accurate description of this
behavior is unprintable in polite company

Microsoft also took out the Bluetooth dialup networking protocol on
the
Samsung i730 and prevented playing streaming media in the browser.
Streaming worked fine on the older i700 and DUN is available on
the  older
Audivox EVDO phones (now being phased out!). I'm waiting for Opera
for the
PPC but maybe Verizon is refusing to allow that -- speaking to the
Opera
people at CES they mumbled something about needing Verizon approval.

Once again, welcome to the Sicilian economy.

It's bad enough that these companies only exist thanks to the
protection of
the FCC, as part of the deal they must prevent users from creating
value
that does not produce billable events. I describe it as making
sacrifices
to the God ARPU (Average Return per User). It wouldn't be so bad if it
didn't do so much economic damage and didn't create security problems.

It's as if we subsidized small towns by requiring all interstate
highways
install red lights and only allow you to pass after you make a local
purchase in each town.

Good thing there are third party patches available to get around
the DUN
problem. Too bad Bluetooth makes it so difficult to add your own
profiles.
I can buy a Bluetooth headset but can't add the profile to my
laptop.  While
that not the same thing as removing the capability it does
demonstrate why
Bluetooth fits so well into the carrier model of enfeebling the edge.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net]
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 17:50
To: ip () v2 listbox com
Subject: [IP] [I agree djf] an accurate description of this
behavior is
unprintable in polite company



Begin forwarded message:

From: "Mike O'Dell" <mo () ccr org>
Date: January 8, 2006 5:46:33 PM EST
To: dave () farber net
Subject: an accurate description of this behavior is unprintable in
polite company

http://engadget.com/2006/01/07/microsoft-blocking-mp3s-on-verizon-
wireless-phones/


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