news from the UK

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

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From: Ted Kircher <tkircher () comcast net>
Date: August 10, 2006 11:37:05 AM EDT
To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Subject: Re: [IP] news from the UK
Reply-To: Ted Kircher <tkircher () comcast net>

Dave,

All of this talk about the potential reality of terrorism is just  
what Bush and Blair want
so that they can further restrict the freedoms of their citizens and  
gain more power over
their legislators. Hence we are moving back to the historic rulers of  
Kings & Queens
and possibly even of Emperors and Pharaohs.

The wars with Iraq, Lebanon and Palestine will keep those countries  
in 3rd world status
for decades since their basic infrastructures are ruined and their  
young people are not
being educated; thus subjecting them to the economic control of  
western powers and Israel .

This is not to say that the threat of terrorism is not real - as a  
byproduct of the overwhelming
forces of the US, UK and Israel which have created destruction that  
is orders of magnitude
greater than 9/11.  I have little doubt that the vast majority of  
citizens in the US, UK and
Israel would become terrorists, including suicide bombers, if they  
were in the same position
as their counterparts in Iraq, Lebanon and Palestine - not only today  
but for decades to come!

What is really disturbing to me is that while the average citizen in  
the US 'looks down' on the
the average Iraqi, Lebanese and Palestinian, he/she fails to realize  
that the neocons in the
Bush adminstration looks down on them in the same way, e.g. paid  
'cannon fodder' in our
all-volunteer armed services - which are void of members from wealthy  
families.

Ted
----- Original Message -----
From: David Farber
To: ip () v2 listbox com
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 8:51 AM
Subject: [IP] news from the UK

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From: Craig Partridge <craig () aland bbn com>
Date: August 10, 2006 8:46:23 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: news from the UK
Reply-To: Craig Partridge <craig () aland bbn com>

Hi Dave:

News reports this morning of a terrorist plan to blow up international
flights from the UK.  Initial reports suggest the plan was to blow up
a number of planes (sobering if it proves true).

One feature, if you read the articles, that might be of interest to IP.
In the UK, they've banned people from taking electronic equipment on
planes: that means laptop computers, mobile phones, and iPods among
other items.  See for instance:

     www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-US-Terror-Plot-Glance.html

I have no idea what the security basis is for this decision.  But
pragmatically, if this rule continues, it presumably will case some
serious dislocations for business travelers.  (Given what I've heard
about theft problems, I'm not likely to put my laptop in checked
luggage -- even assuming I had a suitably armored case in which to
do it).

Craig


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