more on When suburban moms embrace the surveillance society

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

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From: Bill Daul <bdaul () pacbell net>
Date: August 4, 2006 9:34:39 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: dylan () tweney com
Subject: Re: [IP] When suburban moms embrace the surveillance society

Dylan,

Have you not noticed the trend of hiding anything related to  
government...making it illegal to photograph police already exists in  
a couple of cities if you believe our list...Bush and Congress just  
passes a law to make WHATEVER they dislike illegal.  You haven't  
noticed this pattern?

--b



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> From: d f tweney <dylan () tweney com>
> Date: August 4, 2006 2:39:00 PM EDT
> To: dave () farber net
> Subject: Re: [IP] When suburban moms embrace the surveillance society
> Reply-To: dylan () tweney com
>
> "Sheepdom" hardly seems apt -- what sheep polices the other sheep,  
> after all? That's the dog's job, and in this case the dog wasn't  
> doing it.
>
> This is an inevitable result of ubiquitous surveillance. As YouTube  
> proves, we are far more adept at watching each other than the  
> government could possibly be. In the future, it's not "Big Brother"  
> that will be watching us, but millions of Little Brothers.
>
> Maybe that's a little creepy. On the other hand it can work both  
> ways. And if the surveillance extends to the halls of government  
> (and those who work in government) then we will have an  
> unprecedented level of transparency into the workings of our  
> democracy. We've already got C-SPAN -- what we need now are a  
> hundred thousand webcams all over Washington. Especially in our  
> representatives' offices.
>
>
> --
>
> Dylan Tweney           writer/editor
> dylan () tweney com       http://dylan.tweney.com
>
>
>
> David Farber wrote:
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > From: Greg Brooks <gregb () west-third com>
> > Date: August 4, 2006 1:36:42 AM EDT
> > To: dave () farber net
> > Subject: When suburban moms embrace the surveillance society
> > Reply-To: gregb () west-third com
> >
> > Dave, for IP if you wish.
> >
> > There's an interesting piece in the Riverside (CA) Press-Enterprise 
> > [1] about
> > a woman who got her house toilet papered and decided to hunt down the
> > culprits. She didn't want to involve the police, reasoning that  
> > they had
> > better things to do, so she took the following steps:
> >
> > * She canvassed local stores to see which one had a run on toilet  
> > paper.
> >
> > * She then got the manager of the store to show her surveillance  
> > videos,
> > allowing her to see the personalized letterman's jacket of one of the
> > purchasers, as well as the license plate of the vehicle they got  
> > into.
> >
> > * Finally, she used a high school yearbook (matched to the school  
> > based on
> > the letterman's jacket) and online databases to get the names,  
> > phone numbers
> > and addresses of all the teens spotted in the store tapes.
> >
> > To me, this is a bit more than a "talker" feature. One takeaway,  
> > IMHO, is
> > that we're pretty far down the road to sheepdom when average  
> > citizens start
> > thinking "well, everything's monitored all the time anyway - let's  
> > see if I
> > can make use of that."
> >
> > Warm Regards,
> > Greg Brooks
> > West Third Group
> >
> > [1] http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/toilet_paper_caper
> >
> >
> >
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