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Details on AT&T Forwards ALL Internet Traffic Into NSA Says EFF


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 15:37:30 -0400



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From: Tom Vest <tvest () eyeconomics com>
Date: April 8, 2006 2:48:20 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: ip () v2 listbox com
Subject: Re: [IP] Details on AT&T Forwards ALL Internet Traffic Into NSA Says EFF

Hi Dave,

Given the increasing salience of such service blocking mechanisms, your subscribers might be interested in the specific deal between Narus and Shanghai Telecom:

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/73391

It's also worth noting how hardware and services like this have spawned countervailing technologies to obscure the identity/nature of IP traffic flows, e.g.:

http://www.numetra.com/

Although Numetra now appears to be positioned to support third-party content producers and aggregators who hope to remain independent from access network owners, it seems likely that end user-oriented products will also emerge to provide an alternative to passive acquiescence to the enclosure of the Net.

The resulting arms race may be very good for hardware vendors, but does not bode well for the security and stability of the Internet, IMO.

Tom

Tom Vest
PCH Research Program Manager
& Senior Analyst, Internet Economics & Policy
CAIDA: Cooperative Assn. for Internet Data Analysis
http://www.caida.org


On Apr 8, 2006, at 10:37 AM, David Farber wrote:

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From: steven cherry <steven () panix com>
Date: April 8, 2006 9:39:45 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] Details on AT&T Forwards ALL Internet Traffic Into NSA Says EFF


At 5:41 PM -0400 4/7/06, David Farber wrote:
From: Ryan Singel <ryan () ryansingel net>
Date: April 7, 2006 3:53:38 PM EDT

Dave, Mark Klein released a statement with details about what he saw and
did at AT&T.

http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70619-0.html


Dave,

Not much has been written about Narus, the company whose software was used.

Their main products identify and block or bill for VoIP phone calls made through the equipment of traditional telecom providers. They have customers for this system in the Mideast, Asia, and South America. We wrote about them last fall. <http:// www.spectrum.ieee.org/oct05/1846>. They just signed a deal with Shanghai Telecom Co this week, by the way.

 Steven

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