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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:20:50 -0400



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From: Dennis Crowley <dens () dodgeball com>
Date: October 12, 2005 3:37:56 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] Location tracking -- for people, products, places -- is fast coming into its own / It's 11 o'clock. Do you know where your _______ is?


Location enabled and mobile computing have been watchwords for such a long time, it's nice to be using something that actually makes use of these ideas and to see what
the accidental or deliberate social implications are.

hi dave -

saw the post about Plazes and wanted to send this along as well. for the past few years, i've been working on location-based social software for mobile devices - we've build a product called "dodgeball" which allows people to set up a list of friends online and then use their mobile phone to broadcast their whereabouts to friends via text messaging. once dodgeball knows of your location, it will look at all the other users who have "checked-in" nearby to see if it can match you up with a nearby friend-of-friend or someone from your "crush list".

(flash demo of how it works at:  http://www.dodgeball.com)

dodgeball is not dissimilar to things like Plazes (after all, it's about representing people as dots on a map then finding different ways to connect those dots), though dodgeball is a bit more lightweight (as it requires cellular connectivity instead of WiFi)

in any case, we're finding that the most interesting part of what were doing is not in solving the *technical bugs* (e.g. text message + location awareness) but rather in solving the *social bugs* - e.g. the need to manage you groups of friends / social network on the fly and to be able to show / mask your location to different groups of people based on different social scenarios.

both dodgeball + plazes are based on the opt-in (with dodgeball, you need to tell us where you are by sending a text message w/ your whereabouts - e.g. @Luna Lounge where as w/ Plazes you need to be running the Plazes client), but as mobile devices start to become aware of their location and can send this location back to the network (a combination of devices getting smarter, people adopting Java, etc. apps on phones and carriers opening location APIs), the mobile social space is going to start to become a lot more interesting.

/d
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dennis crowley
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+ 917-301-2028
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On Oct 12, 2005, at 5:53 AM, David Farber wrote:



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From: Edward Vielmetti <edward.vielmetti () gmail com>
Date: October 12, 2005 2:58:05 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] Location tracking -- for people, products, places -- is fast coming into its own / It's 11 o'clock. Do you know where your _______ is?


On 10/11/05, David Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:

Location tracking -- for people, products, places -- is fast coming
into its own
It's 11 o'clock. Do you know where your _______ is?

Dave -

I use a system called Plazes to help keep track of my
comings and goings.  It uses beacons from my laptop
to identify wifi access points and lets me register any
new access points I find.  People who are in the system
can see their friends and where they are, and if you
choose to you can publish a history map a la
   http://beta.plazes.com/whereis/edwardvielmetti

There are a couple of good stories around why this
is a reasonable idea if your life is such that other
people knowing where you are is an advantage.
It's proven useful to me more than once where
people have noted that I am within a short drive
or walk and have set up on the spot meetings.
That page also regularly gets pinged from home
when I am out so that Deb knows that I've been
at the ice cream shop.  (I don't go to Vegas so
that has not been an issue.)

Location enabled and mobile computing have
been watchwords for such a long time, it's
nice to be using something that actually
makes use of these ideas and to see what
the accidental or deliberate social implications
are.

thanks

Ed

--
Edward Vielmetti in Ann Arbor, MI 48104
+1 734 276 5910

edward.vielmetti () gmail com
http://www.vacuumgroup.com

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