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more on FROM Intel REPLY Intel quietly embeds DRM in it's 945 chips firmware


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 20:05:57 -0400



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From: "Whiteside, Donald M" <donald.m.whiteside () intel com>
Date: May 31, 2005 3:58:08 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: FW: [IP] more on FROM Intel REPLY Intel quietly embeds DRM in it's 945 chips firmware




Dave,

I don't want to get into a public debate with your ip audience.  DTCP-IP
is broadly licensed.  YES, you do need to pay the license fee and sign
the license to get access to certain parts of the spec; namely the
crypto 'secrets'... standard practice in this space...



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Subject: [IP] more on FROM Intel REPLY Intel quietly embeds DRM in it's
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From: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb () cs columbia edu>
Date: May 31, 2005 10:25:34 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] more on FROM Intel REPLY Intel quietly embeds DRM
in it's 945 chips firmware


In message <E730F927-9544-40BD-9502-EE603E5FFA04 () farber net>, David
Farber writ
es:




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From: "Whiteside, Donald M" <donald.m.whiteside () intel com>
Date: May 30, 2005 7:51:14 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: RE: [IP] Intel quietly embeds DRM in it's 945 chips firmware


The article grossly misrepresents the discussion that occurred.  The
rights management technology referred to in the article was not a
secret
DRM from Intel, but the DTCP-IP technology publicly offered by the 5C
Entity; which Intel is a Founder.  Intel believes that the DTCP-IP
technology is an important element in enabling protected transport of
compressed content within the home network, and we continue to promote
DTCP-IP for this application which enables greater consumer
flexibility
& use of premium entertainment content.




This reply is disingenuous.  The DTCP web site says, on its home page,

      The following are informational versions of the Volume 1
      specification documents, which omit specific sections and
      sensitive information. It is not the complete Volume 1
      and should not be utilized for product implementations.
      The complete DTCP Specification, can be obtained by
      executing the License Agreement and paying the associated
      fees as prescribed in the license agreement.

The license is about 50 pages long, describes "Confidential" and
"Highly Confidential" markings for parts of the technology, and
requires an annual payment of $10,000 for an evaluation license which
can't even be used to ship products.  (If you want to ship products, you
owe even more up front, plus a per-certificate fee.)


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