Interesting People mailing list archives
more on Apple to ditch IBM, switch to Intel chips | CNET News.com
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 07:55:18 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: "Jonathan S. Shapiro" <shap () eros-os org> Date: June 4, 2005 11:43:10 PM EDT To: dave () farber net Cc: Ip ip <ip () v2 listbox com>Subject: Re: [IP] more on Apple to ditch IBM, switch to Intel chips | CNET News.com
On Sat, 2005-06-04 at 19:45 -0400, David Farber wrote:
As Gruber points out, an architecture shift would require the re- release of all Mac software recompiled for the new chip...
This is not a short-term problem. Let's look at another major chip switch that is currently in progress: Sun is phasing out the SPARC-64 in favor of the AMD64. Like IBM's PowerPC, SPARC has been underperforming for a long time. What is not widely known, though I have it from multiple sources, is that there exists dynamic translator technology to run SPARC binary application code on an AMD64 machine. The punch line: the SPARC code runs *faster* this way. Sun quietly acquired the company about a year ago. Ironically, this approach is what we (HaL Computer Systems) advised Sun to do in 1991, when they originally made the switch to 64 bit. We strongly recommended adopting a clean 64-bit architecture and providing 32-bit support through dynamic translation. Dave Ditzel, who was then the chief Sparc Architect, rejected this suggestion on both technical and marketing grounds. Then a curious thing happened. About 18 months later, Dave went and founded Transmeta, which is a company primarily based on the success of dynamic translation. Back when Apple switched to the Power PC, they did a dynamic translator for 68000 applications. There is no reason they can't do it again. It would be easier to do now. In fact, one of my students has a fast dynamic translator sitting on the shelf that could readily be adapted to this use. The pressing technical issues for Apple are the absence of a laptop processor and the absence of higher clock rates. The pressing *business* issues are incompatibility and market differentiation. The technical issues involved in switching can be solved. The business issues are much harder. Jonathan Shapiro Department of Computer Science Johns Hopkins University ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as lists-ip () insecure org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
Current thread:
- more on Apple to ditch IBM, switch to Intel chips | CNET News.com David Farber (Jun 05)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- more on Apple to ditch IBM, switch to Intel chips | CNET News.com David Farber (Jun 05)
- more on Apple to ditch IBM, switch to Intel chips | CNET News.com David Farber (Jun 05)
- more on Apple to ditch IBM, switch to Intel chips | CNET News.com David Farber (Jun 05)