more on the man has a point here .. Jim Babka: A lesson from the Real ID Act

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

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From: Richard Perlman <perl () lucent com>
Date: June 4, 2005 6:06:39 PM EDT
To: David Farber <dave () farber net>, Ip ip <ip () v2 listbox com>
Cc: Ari Ollikainen <Ari () olteco com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Jim Babka: A lesson from the Real ID Act


Are we to believe that the provisions of the "Patriot" act will not  
also be
applied to those unpatriotic souls who do not turn in their  
neighbors, share
a joint with an underage friend, etc.

On a related topic, isn't it strange that the same people who are  
protecting
us from terrorists (they never use fake ID do they) who might fly  
over the
US (let alone dare to land here) and who act diligently to keep these  
same
individuals from bringing their terrorist weapons to our shores;  
cannot, for
some reason, stop the flow of illegal aliens and drugs into our  
country or
the ready availability of a broad range of weapons from our streets.

If someone can walk across the border to find work, and someone else can
bring in drugs by the ton, why would any terrorist try to bring  
terrorist
weapons into the US via a scheduled air flight.

Richard


On 6/4/05 11:08, "David Farber" <dave () farber net> wrote:


> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Ari Ollikainen <Ari () olteco com>
> Date: June 4, 2005 1:18:33 PM EDT
> To: johnmacsgroup () yahoogroups com
> Cc: Dave Farber <farber () cis upenn edu>
> Subject: Re: [johnmacsgroup] Jim Babka: A lesson from the Real ID Act
> Reply-To: johnmacsgroup () yahoogroups com
>
>      So what's HR 1528? Here's a (possibly biased) summary:
>
> Source: http://actioncenter.drugpolicy.org/action/wacmoreinfo.asp?
> item=26179
>
>    H.R. 1528, Defending America's Most Vulnerable: Safe Access to Drug
> Treatment and Child Protection Act of 2005, is one of the worst drug
> war bills that Congress has ever considered.
>
> Among other things, HR 1528:
>
> --Virtually eliminates the ability of federal judges to give
> sentences below the minimum sentence recommended by federal
> sentencing guidelines, essentially creating a mandatory minimum
> sentence for every federal offense (including both drug and non-drug
> offenses).
>
> --Expands the federal "three strikes and you're out" law to include
> new offenses, including mandating life imprisonment (with no
> possibility of parole) for anyone convicted a third time under the
> RAVE Act.
>
>      [ I wasn't aware the feds had a 3 strikes law...]
>
> --Mandates a 10-year minimum sentence for anyone 21 or older that
> gives marijuana or others drugs to someone under 18 (i.e. a 21 year
> old college students gives a joint to his 17-year old brother). A
> second offense would be life in prison.
>
> --Expands what is considered to be a "drug-free" school zone to
> include almost any place in an urban area, and increases penalties
> for selling or distributing drugs in that area. (The result will be
> enhanced penalties for people in inner cities, while people in rural
> and suburban areas get less time for the same offense).
>
> --Mandates a 5-year minimum sentence for any person that commits a
> drug trafficking offense near the presence of a person under 18 or in
> a place where such person resides for any period of time. The
> sentence is 10 years if they are parent. (I.e. a mother that sells
> her neighbor a joint will get a 10-year minimum sentence, even if her
> kids were at school at the time).
>
> --Creates a new offense for persons who witness or learn about
> certain drug offenses that fail to report the drug offender to the
> police within 24 hours or fail to provide full assistance to the
> police in tracking and prosecuting the offender. Offenses that would
> get someone a 2-year minimum sentence, including failing to report a
> neighbor that is storing or selling drugs when that neighbor has
> kids, failing to report anyone that gives a joint to someone under
> the age of 21, and failing to report a college student that is
> selling marijuana on a college campus.
>
>      [I can hear the DrugTroopers' jack boots now...]]
>
> --Mandates a 5-year minimum sentence for any person that offers,
> solicits, encourages, or induces a person enrolled in drug treatment,
> or previously enrolled in drug treatment, to purchase, possess or
> receive drugs.
>
> --Makes it a federal crime to provide "drug paraphernalia" to anyone.
> While the goal is to make it a crime - punishable by up to three
> years in prison - to give someone a bong as a birthday present, it
> would also make it a federal crime to provide someone with sterile
> syringes (except where it is explicitly authorized by local or state
> law). If enacted, it would essentially criminalize many needle
> exchange programs.
>
>      [IF the needle exchange programs are authorized by local/state
>        law, it WON'T criminalize them.]
>
> The full text of H.R. 1528 can be viewed by going to
> http://thomas.loc.gov/ , entering "HR1528" in the search box,
> checking the "enter bill number" circle under the search box, and
> clicking "search".
>
>      [It's a messy read...]




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