more on "DRM" -- and yes -- the mighty "delete" key and hello from Zurich

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

BTW greetings from  Zurich. We arrived today jet lagged but well. We  
are staying at Swiss Re Center for Global Dialogue in Ruschlikon. Our  
room has a spectacular view of the lake. As we walked to catch a bus  
to go to Zurich for a excellent sausage lunch we walked past the IBM  
research center. The conference starts tomorrow

Dave (and GG)

Begin forwarded message:

From: Greg Brooks <gregb () west-third com>
Date: June 15, 2005 11:17:32 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: RE: [IP] "DRM"
Reply-To: gregb () west-third com


Dave,

While Jane makes a terrific point about DRM/TPM, I respectfully disagree
with her regarding upcoming articles.

IP isn't a top-down megaphone; it's a collaborative community with  
much of
the content driven by the eclectic interests and Very Large Brains of  
the
list. Some of those brains want to talk about their upcoming papers?  
Doesn't
seem like a big deal, and I'm certain you'd throttle it down if the  
(nearly
perfect) signal-to-noise ratio on IP became affected.

As with all things e-mail: If it's not interesting, hit the delete  
button.

Warm Regards,
Greg Brooks
West Third Group
www.greg-brooks.com



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Begin forwarded message:

From: Margaret Jane Radin <mradin () stanford edu>
Date: June 15, 2005 7:57:09 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: "DRM"


I wish people would drop the term "DRM."  It was coined by those who
wish to claim as "rights" some things which are not actually their
rights, or are at best contested.  In other words, the "R" in the
term "DRM" begs an important legal question.  I wish people would
instead use the term "TPM" (Technological Protection Measures)
because at least it is neutral on whether or not those who deploy
them have a "right" to do what they're doing in locking up
information.  And TPM happens to be the term used in the WIPO
treaties, too.

BTW, I don't like to read on the list advertisements for people's
forthcoming articles.  To me that is spam.  There are plenty of
sources that inform us what is in the literature.

Peggy Radin



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