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more on more on U.S. broadband A-OK


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:11:08 -0500


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From: Jock Gill <jg45 () mac com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:15:42 -0500
To: Farber Dave <dave () farber net>
Cc: Isenberg David <isen () isen com>, Jock Gill <jg45 () mac com>
Subject: Re: [IP] more on U.S. broadband A-OK

Dave & David:

An interesting metric that would be useful to publish is the cost per
megabit of domestic low-band [any connectivity below 1 gigabit]

For example, Comcast charges about $45 for 3 megabits = $15 / domestic
megabit of low-band per month.

I believe  that in Germany there are locations where the cost per
domestic megabit is 12.5 cents/mo!  [1 gig at $125/mo]

Clearly Comcast would appear to be extravagantly over-charging -- by a
factor of about 120X -- and we customers are getting very badly ripped
off.

This suggest that that we need a mix of metrics to evaluate US
connectivity standings.

1] percent of population served

2] capacity of connectivity rating [low-band to  broad-band]

3] cost per domestic megabit per month.

4] symmetric or asymmetric connectivity

5] support for end-user content creation and distribution: blogs,
podcasts, vidcasts etc.

6] other?

Regards,

Jock


Jock Gill
Meme Intelligence
http://public.xdi.org/=Jock

On Jan 11, 2005, at 8:26 AM, David Farber wrote:


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From: "David S.Isenberg" <isen () isen com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:13:14 -0500
To: David Farber <dave () farber net>, Dewayne Hendricks
<dewayne () warpspeed com>
Subject: Re: U.S. broadband A-OK

Dave,
Dewayne,

[for IP and Dewayne-net, per your editorial discretion]

Declan McCullagh can't explain Canada by citing to population density.
Canada is much more sparsely populated than the United States, yet
Canada is
the third most connected nation, according to the ITU.   Declan
over-simplifies.
Population density is but one aspect of a complex picture.

Also, the idea that the U.S. is 11th is obsolete and optimistic.  New
data from
the ITU puts U.S. connectedness at 13th to 15th.  Even this ranking is
from 2003.
Projecting growth rates, it is likely the U.S. has fallen further
because other countries' connectivity is growing more rapidly.

More detail here:
http://www.isen.com/blog/2004/12/us-15th-in-broadband-per-capita.html
or http://tinyurl.com/6akar

An appropriate test of the McCullagh hypothesis would be to ask
whether, say,
equivalently dense sections of, say, Seoul and New York City were
equivalently
connected.

David I
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On Jan 10, 2005, at 8:47 PM, Declan McCullagh wrote on IP and
Dewayne-net:

By contrast, the United States sprawls over nearly 10 million square
kilometers--100 times the size of South Korea--with a population more
evenly distributed between rural areas, towns and cities and far more
likely to live in single-family homes. Geography and demographics
explain why broadband will take longer to become available in the
United States.


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