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AOL to drop Usenet
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:24:05 -0500
_______________ Forward Header _______________ Subject: Re: [IP] AOL to drop Usenet Author: Brad Templeton <btm () templetons com> Date: 28th January 2005 11:36:23 am
AOL has announced that it's going to drop Usenet. The AP wire story on the subject claimed that fewer than 1000 of its 23 million subscribers even used the service.
I will write in the future something more detailed on this history of USENET -- I wrote a piece for Tim O'Reilly's site a couple of years ago at: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2001/12/21/usenet.html USENET's successes and failures teach a number of very interesting lessons on technology. USENET has seen a staggering failure of innovation -- in spite of all the other internet innovations around it, it still is technologically and structurally almost identical to how it looked 20 years ago, with just a few relatively minor tweaks since then. Yet remarkably, it also does some of its core tasks better than any of its web competitors. There is still no web message board I find easier to use than a USENET newsgroup, or better able to handle large volumes of traffic. And the pre-feeding of articles, created in a world of intermittent connections doesn't match today's always on thinking but results in the lightning response time you get from local data for which their is no substitute. USENET teaches a lesson about a tragedy of the technical commons. USENET became ubiquitous because nobody owned it, but that also killed its innovation potential. Adding a certain classes of new features to USENET is extremely difficult. You must get new client software out to readers, sometimes new software out to all the sites feeding the material. And people may object to the feature even if they will not be using it or reading the messages containing it. Compare that to the web, where nobody owns the web but each web site has an owner. That owner is free to do what they want, and readers can choose to go there or not as they please, at no cost to anybody else. The owner is somewhat constrained by what the browser can do but is always free to write plug-ins, java, javascript flash or whole new applications started from the web in order to innovate. They don't need buy in from anybody. On USENET, some classes of innovations need buy in from _everybody_. As such, they simply don't happen. You will never get that. To get around this question, I created my own hierarchy within the USENET technical structure which was privately owned. As such, when I wanted to innovate, I was able to, though I remained constrained by what software readers had, just as web sites are constrained by browsers. This is not to put any discredit on Tom or Steve or any of the folks who first built USENET. It was brand new and world-changing. And it is a testament to it that USENET's "failure" is really a lack of growth more than a shrikage -- the original design still has merit much later. This is also important because, from the early 80s onward, USENET was the center of community for the internet. It was the "town square" the place where people met and interacted. It took over that role from the arpanet mailing lists, which of course you (Dave) played a large part in. Today it holds that role in just a few niches, while blogs, web boards and traditional media take over most of the others. The internet is too large to have a town square any more. ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as interesting-people () lists elistx com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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