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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:28:21 -0500
------ Forwarded Message From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:09:30 -0800 To: <dave () farber net> Cc: <lauren () vortex com> Subject: Re: [IP] For Official Use Only (DHS Reports) Dave, Fascinating reading. Viewed through the lens of terrorism paranoia, a vast range of conventionally silly, criminal, vindictive, or just plain bizarre behavior can be seen as potentially suspicious in a terrorism context. Of course (as DHS presumably knows -- which is probably the main reason they didn't want those reports in public view) the overwhelmingly vast majority won't have anything to do with terrorism. Local police agencies of course have their own non-terrorism priorities as well and in many cases just pass such observations along to get them off their hands. One thing is very clear. Fake bomb threats aside, persons "protesting" U.S. policies by making "suspicious" but legal phone call queries, and snapping legitimite photos of infrastructure, could potentially cause massive disruption. Many of the incidents being reported are almost certainly exactly that purpose starting to be realized -- on a small scale so far. --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren () pfir org or lauren () vortex com or lauren () privacyforum org Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 http://www.pfir.org/lauren Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Co-Founder, Fact Squad - http://www.factsquad.org Co-Founder, URIICA - Union for Representative International Internet Cooperation and Analysis - http://www.uriica.org Moderator, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com - - -
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understandthis format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3189046251_6604217 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit USE YOUR OWN DISCRESSION DJF ------ Forwarded Message From: Joe Pistritto <jcp () jcphome com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:36:47 -0800 To: <dave () farber net> Subject: something for IP? I dont know how you feel about posting this on IP. Its marked "For Official Use Only" (FOUO), but was found on apparently publicly accessable websites. You might want to look at it and see if you feel comfortable with posting. (it appeared in a blog i read is how i found it.) I think its pretty educational though. http://cryptome.org/hsomb/hsomb.htm Its a set of daily securities from Homeland Security that someone found on an open website. The most recent one is a few days ago. Its interesting because of the number of issues that turn up daily on the report. Most of this is stuff that would never get reported widely but some of it sounds pretty bad. Best regards, -jcp- ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as lauren () pfir org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ --B_3189046251_6604217 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE> For Official Use Only</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'>U= SE YOUR OWN DISCRESSION DJF <BR> <BR> <BR> ------ Forwarded Message<BR> <B>From: </B>Joe Pistritto <jcp () jcphome com><BR> <B>Date: </B>Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:36:47 -0800<BR> <B>To: </B><dave () farber net><BR> <B>Subject: </B>something for IP?<BR> <BR> </SPAN></FONT><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">I dont = know how you feel about posting this on IP. Its marked "For Offi= cial Use Only" (FOUO), but was found on apparently publicly accessable= websites. You might want to look at it and see if you feel comfortab= le with posting. (it appeared in a blog i read is how i found it.) &n= bsp;I think its pretty educational though.<BR> </FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR> </FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"><a href=3D"http://cryptome.org/hsomb/hsomb.htm"=http://cryptome.org/hsomb/hsomb.htm</a><BR></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR> </FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Its a set of daily securities from Homeland Sec= urity that someone found on an open website. The most recent one is a= few days ago. Its interesting because of the number of issues that t= urn up daily on the report. Most of this is stuff that would never ge= t reported widely but some of it sounds pretty bad.<BR> </FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR> </FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Best regards,<BR> -jcp-<BR> </FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR> <BR> <BR> ------ End of Forwarded Message<BR> </FONT></SPAN> <HR> You are subscribed as lauren () pfir org To manage your subscription, go to <A HREF=3D"http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=3Dip";>http://v2.listbox= .com/member/?listname=3Dip</A><P>Archives at: <A HREF=3D"http://www.interes= ting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/">http://www.interesting-people= .org/archives/interesting-people/</A></BODY> </HTML> --B_3189046251_6604217--
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