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creationism and theocracy
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:19:12 -0500
------ Forwarded Message From: Jim Huggins <jhuggins () kettering edu> Organization: Kettering University Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:55:41 -0500 (EST) To: David Farber <dave () farber net> Cc: Ip <ip () v2 listbox com>, <smb () cs columbia edu> Subject: Re: creationism and theocracy Steven Bellovin writes:
I think that this is the true divide today. It's not economics or class; rather, it's the willingness of many (but by no means all) to use the power of the state to impose their religious beliefs.
It occurs to me that this statement seems to apply to both sides of the debate. (I'm not sure if that was your intention or not in writing it.) It seems clear that the Founding Fathers were religious folk ... at least deists, if not Christians. Our government's practices are filled with religious reference ... prayer to open each session of Congress, the pronouncement of a blessing at each session of the Supreme Court, the motto "In God We Trust", and so on. (I'll stay out of the Pledge debate ... the motives there aren't nearly so pure.) In my uninformed opinion, it seems to me that there are those who would want to remove *all* reference to religious thought from public life. This goes well beyond the Establishment Clause, which prohibits Congress from establishing a state-endorsed religion. In response, some religious conservatives over-react, and start working on laws which dread terribly close to the Establishment Clause. And so we have extremists on both sides trying to impose their views on the other. I think common middle ground could be found. There ought to be a way to acknowledge that religious faith is important to a large number of people in our society, and to value those public expressions of faith, without requiring subscription to a state religion. There ought to be a way for me to find out whether I should wish my neighbor a Merry Christmas or a Happy Hanukah (or nothing at all), without fear of causing offense. There ought to be a way to allow Christians to take Good Friday off from work, and Jews to take Yom Kippur, and Muslims to take Id-al-Fitr, without fear that somehow we are "endorsing" any particular religion by doing so. It is easy to forget that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., was also *Reverend* Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., pastor of a little church in Birmingham, Alabama, when he found his faith propelling him into the public arena to fight for civil rights. It should be possible to celebrate how his faith (and the faith of many others) compelled him into action, without imposing a burdensome duty on others. But, of course, I'm a hopeless idealist ... ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as lists-ip () insecure org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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